Young Theodore Bridgewater

[Purple bruise]

I don't want to go overboard here and make this thread about Mariota but he has very similar flaws coming out as Teddy did.....Arm strength and downfield accuracy.

Two reasons why I wouldn't draft him.....the type of offense he plays in and if you watch him enough, his pocket presence and ability to go through his progressions is not very good at all. He's drawing comparisons to Kaepernick....not somebody I would want on this team. Dual thread QBs very rarely get it done in this league anymore (or ever for that matter).

He looks like a Flacco clone to me and I would take Flacco any day of the week.

[Purple Reign]

what teddy is doing with this joke of an offense is fantastic if you ask me. ponder had the luxury of one of the top 5 running backs to ever play the game STOP mentioning these two in the same reference it is irrelevant.

This is a discussion board and the topic of this thread is about Teddy, and until Teddy really starts producing there are going to be comparisons to Ponder, there's just no two ways about it. If you don't like seeing posts like that, then just skip over them, nobody is forcing you to read them.

[Purple Reign]

Look, folks, I'm just trying to be logical here but I realize I sometimes have all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop so if I rubbed anybody in this thread the wrong way earlier, I apologize.

No need to apologize Jim, we are all entitled to our opinions. If some people here get upset just because you point out some valid similarities between TB and CP, that's their issue IMO. I think the biggest reason people don't like to hear about any similarities is because we as fans have gone through a long stretch of under achieving qbs and some of those fans don't want to even consider that it may be possible that TB may not be our franchise qb and pointing out similarities to CP is a reminder that it is a possibility. I'm not saying TB won't be our franchise qb, we need to give him time and surround him with the proper personnel, but just comparing him to CP at all seems to cause a negative reaction.

[Pondering Her Percy]

He looks like a Flacco clone to me and I would take Flacco any day of the week.

Flacco?? Flacco is a pure pocket passer that is a giant and has a cannon arm.....which is basically the complete opposite of Mariota.

[Pondering Her Percy]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/future ... ridgewater

This is an EXCELLENT write up regarding Bridgewater. Some very interesting takes and clips at the link.

[Purple bruise]

PHP:

"Flacco?? Flacco is a pure pocket passer that is a giant and has a cannon arm.....which is basically the complete opposite of Mariota.[/quote]

Really? That giant is 2 inches taller and they weigh the same. If you see they in side by side, in uniform photos, they look very similar. They are both competitive and both have great leadership qualities. You seem to really not like him for what ever reason but most all experts predict that he will win the Heisman. Of course we all have our own opinions and mine is that I think that he is a great NFL QB prospect and I would trade him in a heartbeat for Teddy.

Yeah I would hate to have this weak armed QB on the Vikes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdQcqop2R-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVh-KkUEGA

[maembe]

PHP:

"Flacco?? Flacco is a pure pocket passer that is a giant and has a cannon arm.....which is basically the complete opposite of Mariota.

Really? That giant is 2 inches taller and they weigh the same. If you see they in side by side, in uniform photos, they look very similar. They are both competitive and both have great leadership qualities. You seem to really not like him for what ever reason but most all experts predict that he will win the Heisman. Of course we all have our own opinions and mine is that I think that he is a great NFL QB prospect and I would trade him in a heartbeat for Teddy.

Yeah I would hate to have this weak armed QB on the Vikes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdQcqop2R-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVh-KkUEGA

I wouldn't trust him. He basically just stands in a perfect pocket for five seconds every play and then makes a nice pass to a wide open receiver. Obviously he can run really well too, but it's impossible to tell if his talent is going to translate to the NFL, and the Flacco comparison makes no sense since their styles are polar opposites.


That said, at this point I would trade Teddy for him in a heartbeat.

[Purple bruise]

I wouldn't trust him. He basically just stands in a perfect pocket for five seconds every play and then makes a nice pass to a wide open receiver. Obviously he can run really well too, but it's impossible to tell if his talent is going to translate to the NFL, and the Flacco comparison makes no sense since their styles are polar opposites.

That said, at this point I would trade Teddy for him in a heartbeat.

I am not sure how this got into my quote but I did not say it, "I wouldn't trust him. He basically just stands in a perfect pocket for five seconds every play and then makes a nice pass to a wide open receiver. Obviously he can run really well too, but it's impossible to tell if his talent is going to translate to the NFL, and the Flacco comparison makes no sense since their styles are polar opposites".

[Pondering Her Percy]

I don't need to see highlight tapes of the guy. I've seen him play many times. Highlight tapes make Bridgewater look flawless as well.

He's overly reliant on his first read, occasionally commits the cardinal sin of throwing late across his body

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0a ... a-analysis

These both reiterate similar flaws that Teddy has. To add in the offense that he runs, I'll still pass. To be honest, I'm not even sure why we're talking about the guy since we're never going to draft him

[Purple bruise]

I don't need to see highlight tapes of the guy. I've seen him play many times. Highlight tapes make Bridgewater look flawless as well.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0a ... a-analysis

These both reiterate similar flaws that Teddy has. To add in the offense that he runs, I'll still pass. To be honest, I'm not even sure why we're talking about the guy since we're never going to draft him

Well I do not agree that they would not draft him if the chance presented itself. It should/will depend on if TB continues to struggle and show little or no improvement.
About the highlights, these are highlights of a player who is odds on favorite of winning the Heisman. Winning the Heisman, especially for QBs, has not really ever meant much and more often than not the winners at the QB position are dissapointing to say the least.
That being said, this kid has a great arm, great size, great running ability and makes TB pale in comparison to most or all the measurables that you want in a franchise qb. So IMO I would love to see the Vikes figure out a way to draft him.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Well I do not agree that they would not draft him if the chance presented itself. It should/will depend on if TB continues to struggle and show little or no improvement.
About the highlights, these are highlights of a player who is odds on favorite of winning the Heisman. Winning the Heisman, especially for QBs, has not really ever meant much and more often than not the winners at the QB position are dissapointing to say the least.
That being said, this kid has a great arm, great size, great running ability and makes TB pale in comparison to most or all the measurables that you want in a franchise qb. So IMO I would love to see the Vikes figure out a way to draft him.

The quote I put above regarding him staring down receivers is literally the complete opposite of TB. And sure he can run but like I said, how many dual threat QBs make it in the NFL anymore??? TB is a pure pocket passer, also the complete opposite of Mariota. Poise, composure, going through progressions, and being a pure pocket passer.....I would take any day over a dual threat QB. Newton, RGIII, Vick, Kap/Wilson (saved by good defenses), etc...they are far from elite QBs. TB is athletic enough to get out of the pocket if he needs to, that's all I ask for. I don't want a guy that runs all over the field like Cam and RGIII but can't carry their teams to victory.

[maembe]

I am not sure how this got into my quote but I did not say it, "I wouldn't trust him. He basically just stands in a perfect pocket for five seconds every play and then makes a nice pass to a wide open receiver. Obviously he can run really well too, but it's impossible to tell if his talent is going to translate to the NFL, and the Flacco comparison makes no sense since their styles are polar opposites".

My bad. Somehow the quoting got messed up so I put the close quote in myself.

[Purple Reign]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/future ... ridgewater

This is an EXCELLENT write up regarding Bridgewater. Some very interesting takes and clips at the link.

That article was written almost a year ago and based solely on Teddy's college games. I am curious if the author's views are the same today after taking Teddy's NFL games into consideration. And no, I'm not knocking Teddy so don't bother responding with 'but he's just a rookie' or 'he doesn't have an o-line or any wide receivers' arguments - I know all that already.

[Purple bruise]

PHP:

"The quote I put above regarding him staring down receivers is literally the complete opposite of TB. And sure he can run but like I said, how many dual threat QBs make it in the NFL anymore??? TB is a pure pocket passer, also the complete opposite of Mariota. Poise, composure, going through progressions, and being a pure pocket passer.....I would take any day over a dual threat QB. Newton, RGIII, Vick, Kap/Wilson (saved by good defenses), etc...they are far from elite QBs. TB is athletic enough to get out of the pocket if he needs to, that's all I ask for. I don't want a guy that runs all over the field like Cam and RGIII but can't carry their teams to victory.[/quote]

First off, I am enjoying this discussion regardless of the fact that you and I disagree. First off,I would take Kap/Wilson over TB any day and any time.
You keep talking about TB's poise in the pocket/composure but mostly I see him poised alright but then I see him missing wide open receivers, checking down way to quickly, and that to me negates his poise and composure by a mile. Secondly until/if the Vikes do not fix their o-line then screw a pocket type passer because they will be destroyed with the current line. That, in of itself, would be a great argument for drafting or acquiring a QB such as Wilson/Kap and surely Mariota.
So you stay patient with TB and I will hope and pray that he can develop into the franchise QB that we all have been waiting for but I have my very very strong doubts that he will be.

[Pondering Her Percy]

That article was written almost a year ago and based solely on Teddy's college games. I am curious if the author's views are the same today after taking Teddy's NFL games into consideration. And no, I'm not knocking Teddy so don't bother responding with 'but he's just a rookie' or 'he doesn't have an o-line or any wide receivers' arguments - I know all that already.

I understand that it was written then. However, it points out the same ups and downs he's having as a pro.