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Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:18 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
S197 wrote: Childs isn't on the team anymore. They have three others, Jean, Thielen, and some other guy I can't remember.
Kamar Jorden

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:22 pm
by Mothman
PacificNorseWest wrote: Not sure I agree with all the players you mentioned, but from the first part, I have to agree to an extent.

Exum and Yankey were great value picks and will probably make an impact early on. However, Speilman isnt the greatest at getting productive players from late in the draft. I feel like everyone from the 7th round probably won't make the team and it baffles me that Bullough and Skov are still there and the Vikings didn't take them. Those are football players. Just reminds me of Vontaze Burfict. I think they reached with a lot of those picks. They're just hoping they turn out good.
Skov is slow and, if I'm not mistaken, oft-injured. I'm not surprised they passed on him and to a significant extent, a "reach" is in the eye of the beholder.

Everyone has their mid-to-late round favorites but I'm seeing a lot of complaints expressed about players no team has picked. That doesn't mean they aren't good football players or can't cut it as pros but they clearly didn't do enough to convince NFL teams to draft them (at least not yet).

Maybe the Vikes will sign a few of these guys as free agents.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:28 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
Todd R wrote: I hope he has been passed up because of the press frenzy that would surround rather than his sexual preference.
Maybe he just sucked? People shouldn't be obliged to pick someone because of their sexual preference. Nor should anything be made of it.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:31 pm
by King James
HardcoreVikesFan wrote: Laughable. You aren't the co-defensive player in the SEC if you suck. Yeah, sure, his profile makes him more recognizable, but they guy has talent.

Apparently he does suck!!! :lol: Sorry I know that was a tasteless joke....lol But in all seriousness I didn't say he was garbage, I just said he wasn't that good. Then again we already have enough DE's already. I just don't see what about his game suggested that he HAD to be drafted by somebody.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:35 pm
by PurpleMustReign
Did Jackson Jeffcoat get drafted yet?

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:38 pm
by PacificNorseWest
Mothman wrote: Skov is slow and, if I'm not mistaken, oft-injured. I'm not surprised they passed on him and to a significant extent, a "reach" is in the eye of the beholder.

Everyone has their mid-to-late round favorites but I'm seeing a lot of complaints expressed about players no team has picked. That doesn't mean they aren't good football players or can't cut it as pros but they clearly didn't do enough to convince NFL teams to draft them (at least not yet).

Maybe the Vikes will sign a few of these guys as free agents.
This is exactly why I'm bringing this up. Year after year I see teams pass on guys or not draft a guy because of off the field issues, bad combine numbers, or size. And year after year a lot of these guys end up tearing it up in the NFL. The football player type. The easiest (in my opinion) to spot and guys who can help every single team. Mason Foster, Honey badger, Burfict are just a few examples...I understand your stance, but I'm telling you right now that these guys are football players and proven football players at that. I'd take that over some of the bums these GM's take in the 7th round who don't have much chance of making the team anyway. And it's at a position of need. Unless they feel he's too similiar to Mauti...That's the only thing I can think of because Mauti is also slow and oft-injured...Yet they drafted him.

Happens every year. Never pass on a football player. Never.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:39 pm
by mondry
Mothman wrote:
Skov is slow and, if I'm not mistaken, oft-injured. I'm not surprised they passed on him and to a significant extent, a "reach" is in the eye of the beholder.

Everyone has their mid-to-late round favorites but I'm seeing a lot of complaints expressed about players no team has picked. That doesn't mean they aren't good football players or can't cut it as pros but they clearly didn't do enough to convince NFL teams to draft them (at least not yet).

Maybe the Vikes will sign a few of these guys as free agents.
Yeah, and I think that's kind of what it is, people hear a "name" and without having done much research at all (i mean really, how many of us here have done extensive scouting on 5th-7th round picks?) get attached to the name they glossed over on CBSsports or wherever and that's the one they want to hear picked. NFL teams actually scout these players and watch their film and everything else on them compared to some talking head from ESPN who I promise you hasn't actually looked at these players at all but has a "best of what's left" list to go off of. We just gotta trust the teams -professional- scouting department haha.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:48 pm
by Eliot
Sam had a better season than clowney. He was going to be a 2nd-3rd round pick in January and then he came out.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:50 pm
by PacificNorseWest
Eliot wrote:Sam had a better season than clowney. He was going to be a 2nd-3rd round pick in January and then he came out.
A better season than Clowney?

Not neccessarily. That's straight espn.com/stats for ya. And even bringing Clowney into this is silly. He's a monster.

Edit: Sam is a Ram.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:51 pm
by NDVikeFan
Michael Sam to the Rams.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:52 pm
by mondry
Happy for the guy, it's too bad coming out cost him a lot of money but at least he got drafted.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:55 pm
by PacificNorseWest
mondry wrote: Yeah, and I think that's kind of what it is, people hear a "name" and without having done much research at all (i mean really, how many of us here have done extensive scouting on 5th-7th round picks?) get attached to the name they glossed over on CBSsports or wherever and that's the one they want to hear picked. NFL teams actually scout these players and watch their film and everything else on them compared to some talking head from ESPN who I promise you hasn't actually looked at these players at all but has a "best of what's left" list to go off of. We just gotta trust the teams -professional- scouting department haha.
Doesn't take research to turn on a game or some game tapes and see that the guy is one helluva instinctual player. Teams have scouted many a pro that they've missed on. I should mention that my Skov mention has carried over from another board where I'm baffled overall that he hasn't been taken and not just from a Vikings standpoint. That's important because it's not that the Vikings didn't draft him...It's just why some of these other guys over him (after last post I think it's his similarity to Mauti) and how has no team picked him? They have their reasons...But he'll be a solid pro. Interested to see where he goes.

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:04 pm
by Purple bruise
An analysis of all the Viking's picks: http://www.vikings.com/news/draft/2014/picks.html

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:18 pm
by Webbfann
S197 wrote:I wonder if they'll pickup an UDFA at QB. I think they will. Connor Shaw, Brett Smith, or Bryn Renner would be my preference.

I don't care if they pick one up at 7-11 or Walmart. Just please pick one up. Teddy deserves to be the sole brunt of our round 1 QB frustration now. :D

Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread - Rounds 4-7

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:23 pm
by PacificNorseWest
Been fun.

Teddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!