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Cramps for Percy Harvin
Awww, widdle pewcy got a widdle boo boo? Want mommy to kiss it and make it better? Give me a break. Didn't he just have trouble with something else not that long ago? Besides the surgery (and then whining about recovery from the surgery)?Right. Cramps at the END of practice. What a p*ssy. Professional athletes never get those.Demi wrote:
This is the guy who missed the rookie symposium with "flu like" symptoms. Who mentions "no surgery is small" when asked when he'd be able to practice again. Who's had questions about some of his missed practices in college, and then in the NFL. And during OTAs had some other issue. Half dozen seperate "injuries" he ends up on the injury report for in any given season.dead_poet wrote: Right. Cramps at the END of practice. What a p*ssy. Professional athletes never get those.
Demi wrote:
And who has a hissy fit every time Harvin's name is mentioned? Who whines every time Harvin is listed with any kind of injury?Demi wrote:This is the guy who missed the rookie symposium with "flu like" symptoms. Who mentions "no surgery is small" when asked when he'd be able to practice again. Who's had questions about some of his missed practices in college, and then in the NFL. And during OTAs had some other issue. Half dozen seperate "injuries" he ends up on the injury report for in any given season.
What's your point? That he's injury-prone? He's only missed three games in three seasons and plays through pain. He's as tough a receiver as they come. He may not be a huge practice guy (which might be an exaggeration in and of itself), but if he shows up on Sundays like he has that's fine with me. He knows how to prepare.Demi wrote:This is the guy who missed the rookie symposium with "flu like" symptoms. Who mentions "no surgery is small" when asked when he'd be able to practice again. Who's had questions about some of his missed practices in college, and then in the NFL. And during OTAs had some other issue. Half dozen seperate "injuries" he ends up on the injury report for in any given season.
I guarantee many have.And speaking of those professional athletes, no one else had any issue with cramps?
That's kind of nit-picking, don't you think? What does it matter? Maybe the trainers told him that because they were almost done to just sit out. It may not have been his call. What, exactly, is your problem with the guy?And "dropped out late" is different than "end".
Yeah what a ####. The guy has missed 3 career games with injury and migraine headaches that most people couldn't bare to watch football on TV with let alone play at a pro-bowl level as Harvin has. Man if Ponder does half as good this year as I am predicting along with Harvin's pro-bowl expectation that will cause a lot of angst for some posterslosperros wrote: And who has a hissy fit every time Harvin's name is mentioned? Who whines every time Harvin is listed with any kind of injury?
If you're suffering this much now, you'll be in agony every time Harvin makes a big play or scores a TD during the regular season. And, in case you've missed it, Harvin does make big plays and score TDs.
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
There's the closest web come to a fight. Harvin and Harrison Smith getting into it again. Simpson gave Smith a shove.
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
Percy looked like he was thinking about spiking the ball in Smith's face after he got hit on whistle. Kept jabbering for a minute
Judd Zulgad @1500ESPNJudd
I like Harrison Smith's style. He won't be a passive safety like Tyrell Johnson was. This guy likes to play football.
Judd Zulgad @1500ESPNJudd
Harrison Smith on standing up for himself: “I don’t really think that really applies to coming in here. I just think that applies to life."
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
Christian Ponder was 7-of-14 passing in team drills, 2 INTs, 1 sack. Joe Webb 7-11, 2 sacks. Sage Rosenfels 2-6. MBT 3-4.
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
That'll pretty much do it for the opening stage of camp. Closed walkthrough tomorrow morning. Then on to San Francisco. #Vikings
I don't think that will help, Percy has waaay too many issues going on.Angels Wings wrote:
That depends - are they paying him for the amount he practices, or are they paying him for the amount he produces on Sundays when it counts?Demi wrote:But if it keeps going like this do you really want to invest low #1/high #2 money in a guy you can't even trust to be 100% for a week?
I think you're exaggerating a tad. Tom Brady is also on the Pats injury report on a regular basis, but never misses games. Percy plays through the "injuries", and plays well. And last time I checked, he was complaining that he wasn't on the field enough during games, not the other way around, so i don't know where the missing snaps on the sideline comment is coming from. I would honestly say that I don't think Percy's "injuries" affect this team in any major fashion outside of the 3 games he's missed.Demi wrote: I don't think that will help, Percy has waaay too many issues going on.
What's my problem? I guess commenting negatively isn't allowed. I should have pointed out how tough he was sticking it out that long! Give me a break. "Missed three games" and how many snaps has he missed being a baby on the sideline because his ribs hurt? Or his finger? Or his ankle? Or his shoulder? How many practices does he sit out of because of his dozens of injuries.
My point is to be a full time contributing member of this team he's going to have to stay healthy. And he hasn't. He can't even make it through a week without having some issue. OTAs he wasn't healthy. One week in and he's already cutting his practice short due to cramps. Before that it was his shoulder surgery nagging. He was on the injury report a half dozen times last year. And if you don't think it negatively impacts this team, you're crazy. Obviously it's better than nothing. But if it keeps going like this do you really want to invest low #1/high #2 money in a guy you can't even trust to be 100% for a week?
I agree that the numbers (especially the INT's) cause some concern but at the same time you can't always look at them at face value without watching. Tom and Judd both commented on this the other day. While Ponder has had bad throws, it hasn't always been his fault. Guys running wrong routes, dropped balls that were on target, offensive line missing assignments forcing him to throw it away and batted down balls (both QB and line can be blamed).jackal wrote:Man it seems Ponder has been struggling this week ...
pick it up man .. the vikings need you to be better than 7-14 with two picks ...
show it in your play on the field, not just your sound bites and attitude
