There are no great answers out there at quarterback. Most of the marginal QBs are spoken for at this point. The Vikings have been dealt a significant blow and they know it. Zimmer and Spielman are going to have to do something and do it quick or the expectations of last Sunday quickly could turn into the frustration of a lost season.
Pondering Her Percy wrote:Bottom line is, we need someone to manage a game. I'm not nearly as worried as some. We need a guy that can limit turnovers. We've been in this "we have no QB" position before in 2012 and didnt have nearly as good of a defense then. We have a great running game and a great defense. Sanchez worked wonders with that and so did Dilfer and Grossman. I liked what I saw out of Hill IN SEATTLE against their first team. He managed the game. I don't expect a 300 yard/3 TD game. If we can get 150 and 1-2 TDs, we'll be fine
Teddy didnt light the world on fire last year and we went 11-5 and won the north. And also had a playoff win if Blair didnt choke. Hill can throw for 14 TDS this year. The key is limiting the turnovers.
My one and only worry with Hill......facing pressure. I would LOVE to see Heinecke in action. I've loved the kid since day 1.
A wounded tiger is the most the dangerous .....anyone remember the Arizona game last year when we were missing the best player on every level of our defense? And were very close to beating them? The same Arizona that went to the NFC championship?
Like I said, I'm not nearly as worried as some. More pressure on AP and our defense but I truly believe in Zimmer and this team.
This is where I'm at. The Superbowl aspirations are probably an outside shot at best, but this can still be a highly competitive team with AP and a QB who is willing to play conservative. That is why I think Hill could be the guy since he is in his late 30s and doesn't need to pad his stats. What we are going to lack is Babyface's under appreciated ability to make a few plays when it really counts.
This is going to seriously ratchet up the pressure on the OL to protect given we will most likely be fielding a far less mobile QB.
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Mothman wrote:
Not necessarily, although it will depend to some extent on what they can do to replace him.
The Vikings reached the playoffs last year primarily through a combination of defense and running the football. This injury will likely make improvement in the passing game more difficult but Bridgewater's production hasn't exactly been at the "irreplaceable" level. The question is, can get they get someone to step in and match or exceed it without making too many mistakes? I think it's possible.
Agree with this assessment 100%.....defense will have to step it up etc but all is not lost.....just a bit harder.
I think there are a couple problems with Hill
The most games he has played in any season lately is 10.
Will the offensive line be able to protect him? He is not a very mobile QB, and l'm not sure how many hits he could take.
Heineke (spelling?) is reportedly ahead of schedule on his own recovery. What are the chances he will be able to play effectively by, let's say, bye week?
If nothing else, playing him means development of a possible long term backup QB, assuming Teddy can return as a good starter next year.
Feel so bad for Teddy, and meanwhile, it sucks to be in this position for fans.
Still, SKOL!
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therefore, I shall endeavor to acquire some self-control."
NOw that I have spent a night with a good bottle of wine, a Cubbie Win, and my 2 sympathetic Boxers/wife.....I put away the noose and realized that last year we won our division with a QB who had a truly mediocre year. If anything he regressed a bit. GB and Chicago have not really improved . SO, we really could have a reasonable year with a mediocre QB. Shaun Hill is NOT the answer though. I don't think he can pass anything deeper then 20 yrds. Spielmman just needs to find someone who, in the worlds of Joe Madden, understands the idea, "Just dont Suck".
Jordysghost wrote:
For stating my opinion? You really think im saying this to rile you up?
Im not understanding what is so outrageous about my perception of the situation, I think the Viking can adequately replace Bridgewater and compete for the division title with the correct course of action, why is this foe list worthy? It seems im more optimistic about the livelyhood of your team then most Minny fans.
Sometimes Jordy rubs the wrong way (for me) but not this time......he is sharing an outsiders point of view which is ok by me. I didn't take anything he shared as trolling. Lets face it....TBs numbers were pedestrian no matter which way you slice it. Now he did show some promise at taking the next step up until he got hurt and I truly think we were in for a special season but I still believe this season is not lost. Hill is not the answer for 16+ games but perhaps can keep us out of the basement until the bye week. Will be interesting to see what the Vikings do in the next 7 days. Prayers to ya Teddy......stay strong and positive (I know you will).
Exactly! Teddy hasnt been the second coming of Tarkenton. The worst thing about what has happened is that this was the year he was supposed to Prove something. He hadnt done so yet. Again, if we just find a so-so QB for the year we are no worse off then last year.
It still amazes me that someone can have that serious of an injury from what was described as just a typical drop back from under center. I mean, a tear, a sprain, okay I get that put close to losing a leg?
Is this type of injury one of those time bombs that was ready to go off or something that a perfect set of circumstances need to happen for this to occur? I guess what I'm wondering is was this really just a one in a million type thing or is there potential for this to be a Greg Childs type situation?
its not likely he was "normal" until that instance. Was he born with an atypical ACL? It happens...Did he partially tear in in camp and write it off as a minor sprain and "play through it"? Could be.....but a totally normal knee isnt likely to completely blow out just by dropping back in passing drills. I wonder if he ever had previous MRIs of his knees done? For what the NFL spends on QBs, I wouldnt be surprised if its a standard screening tool for all players.
S197 wrote:
It still amazes me that someone can have that serious of an injury from what was described as just a typical drop back from under center. I mean, a tear, a sprain, okay I get that put close to losing a leg?
Is this type of injury one of those time bombs that was ready to go off or something that a perfect set of circumstances need to happen for this to occur? I guess what I'm wondering is was this really just a one in a million type thing or is there potential for this to be a Greg Childs type situation?
That is my fear too. HardcoreVike can probably help answer some of that. What was Child's injury? It wasn't the same thing was it?
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chicagopurple wrote:its not likely he was "normal" until that instance. Was he born with an atypical ACL? It happens...Did he partially tear in in camp and write it off as a minor sprain and "play through it"? Could be.....but a totally normal knee isnt likely to completely blow out just by dropping back in passing drills. I wonder if he ever had previous MRIs of his knees done? For what the NFL spends on QBs, I wouldnt be surprised if its a standard screening tool for all players.
Maybe it wasn't his shoulder that was bothering him against Seattle...
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