Vikings QB Kellen Mond test positive for COVID; three QBs including Kirk Cousins expected to miss practice

[StumpHunter]

And 3 playoff wins.

Yep 3 playoff wins. Do bye's count as wins? then 5.

Sure, we can count them since the team earned them with great play in the regular seasons. I assume 5 in 20 years is better than a lot of teams, but not nearly as good as others. I am curious how the Vikings stack up over the past 15 or so years of Rick being a part of the Vikings.

[J. Kapp 11]

The situation from last year has changed. The vaccine wasn't available last year. If he misses games this year, and isn't vaccinated, then yes, I would predict that he WILL get some grief by the media and fans.

And yes, being a QB gets you higher scrutiny, fair or not... The QB touches the ball every offensive play.

Yes the QB is more scrutinized, but for some goofy reason people have an irrational disdain for Kirk. He's always courteous to everybody no matter how much they hound him and he almost always plays well for our Vikings.

I’ll chime in here.

No one has stood up more for Kirk Cousins over his 3 seasons in Minnesota than I have. I advocated for his signing, and I’ve defended him when he’s played well. In fairness, I’ve also been critical when he’s played poorly.

When he said, “If I die, I die,” I actually stood up for him. That is an indication that he has faith, that his life is not in his own hands.

BUT … when you miss a significant part of training camp because you aren’t vaccinated and you (inadvertently) run counter to league protocols, and THEN blame the Vikings for not providing a big enough meeting space, THAT indicates a lack of accountability.

Cousins should, in my opinion, stand up for what he believes. Don’t make excuses. If you believe it’s nobody’s damn business whether your personal health choices matches that of others, then man up and say so. It’s not the Vikings’ fault that he wound up on the COVID list. And don’t tell the media you’ll “do anything” to stay clear of landing on the list when clearly you won’t.

Again, I have supported Cousins when appropriate, and I think it’s been appropriate a lot. But in this instance, I think he’s wrong. He should either actually “do anything” and get the shot, or say “my bad” when he ends up on the COVID list. That’s not a goofy take or an irrational disdain for Cousins. It’s just my opinion.

[VikingLord]

He should either actually “do anything” and get the shot, or say “my bad” when he ends up on the COVID list. That’s not a goofy take or an irrational disdain for Cousins. It’s just my opinion.

He should forfeit big chunks of change if he ends up on the COVID list and misses practice or game time.

Big chunks.

Let's see where he stands when he has to put his money where his mouth is.

[VikingsVictorious]

He should either actually “do anything” and get the shot, or say “my bad” when he ends up on the COVID list. That’s not a goofy take or an irrational disdain for Cousins. It’s just my opinion.

He should forfeit big chunks of change if he ends up on the COVID list and misses practice or game time.

Big chunks.

Let's see where he stands when he has to put his money where his mouth is.

I guarantee you losing money or not wouldn't change his stance one iota. If you think different I'm certain you just don't understand the man.

[VikingLord]

He should forfeit big chunks of change if he ends up on the COVID list and misses practice or game time.

Big chunks.

Let's see where he stands when he has to put his money where his mouth is.

I guarantee you losing money or not wouldn't change his stance one iota. If you think different I'm certain you just don't understand the man.

You base your knowledge of what Cousins would or wouldn't do on what? You know him personally or something?

[J. Kapp 11]

He should forfeit big chunks of change if he ends up on the COVID list and misses practice or game time.

Big chunks.

Let's see where he stands when he has to put his money where his mouth is.

I guarantee you losing money or not wouldn't change his stance one iota. If you think different I'm certain you just don't understand the man.

Not to rain on anybody’s parade, but Cousins is out to make a buck, too.

Back in 2018, he initially got a $75 million offer from the Vikings. The Jets then came in at $90 million, and Cousins used that as leverage to get the Vikings up to $84 million, even though Cousins had no intention of ever playing for the Jets. He didn’t even visit them. All this is well documented and pretty much indisputable.

So yes, it could be said that Kirk Cousins took less money to play for the Vikings. And I’d guess he would stand on principle if push came to shove regarding COVID. But don’t try to tell us that money doesn’t matter to the man. While I don’t blame him for leveraging the Jets’ offer, let’s not anoint him to sainthood quite yet.

[S197]

The more I think about this, the more upset I am at the Vikings organization. Masks nor vaccines are required for fans to attend games as of right now. Contrast that with many other teams that are requiring all fans to be vaccinated, which includes Las Vegas and New Orleans. The Falcons are 100% vaccinated. Heck, even Nick Bosa got vaccinated today due to pressure from his team. The Saints are going so far as to say they won’t refund season ticket holders who are unvaccinated. What this means is it’s not just the players, the owners and management are complicit in all of this. It’s a culture of irresponsibility.

https://www.wdsu.com/article/new-orlean ... 9/37329485

Let me put that in perspective, a state with less than a 40% vaccination rate is doing far more than the Vikings organization to keep people safe. It’s unacceptable and I won’t support it. Not that little ‘ole me makes a difference but as of right now, I cannot in good conscience support this team until they get their act together. From Zygi on down this team is an embarrassment and while I can’t do anything about it, my support ends today.

I hope you all stay safe and healthy.

[fiestavike]

At some point, we are going to have to put covid in context and go on with life. It is a virus which is found in dogs, horses, deer, etc. There will be new variants and we will never be able to eliminate covid. Survival rates have gone up significantly after the first wave and before the vaccine. Your survival rate with the vaccine is even higher than your very high survival rate without it.

People die. Some people will die of covid every year for the rest of our lives. Depending on how this lab enhanced virus interacts with nature, it might continue to become less dangerous, or it might produce a strain that makes the first wave look mild.

[StumpHunter]

The more I think about this, the more upset I am at the Vikings organization. Masks nor vaccines are required for fans to attend games as of right now. Contrast that with many other teams that are requiring all fans to be vaccinated, which includes Las Vegas and New Orleans. The Falcons are 100% vaccinated. Heck, even Nick Bosa got vaccinated today due to pressure from his team. The Saints are going so far as to say they won’t refund season ticket holders who are unvaccinated. What this means is it’s not just the players, the owners and management are complicit in all of this. It’s a culture of irresponsibility.

https://www.wdsu.com/article/new-orlean ... 9/37329485

Let me put that in perspective, a state with less than a 40% vaccination rate is doing far more than the Vikings organization to keep people safe. It’s unacceptable and I won’t support it. Not that little ‘ole me makes a difference but as of right now, I cannot in good conscience support this team until they get their act together. From Zygi on down this team is an embarrassment and while I can’t do anything about it, my support ends today.

I hope you all stay safe and healthy.

I believe the Minnesota Sports Facility Authority could be the ones to make that a rule. The Vikings might have that authority too, but I am not really sure.

You have to remember that LA is just getting hammered right now by the virus, while MN cases are significantly lower. There really isn't a significant outbreak here.

[VikingLord]

Depending on how this lab enhanced virus interacts with nature...

Maybe the Chinese are still "enhancing" it?

What will we do if they start regular releases of COVID upgrades?

"COVID 2.0, now enhanced to only infect and be deadly to only Americans"

Or, what if Russia decides to start doing that now that "lab enhancing" of viruses is apparently something countries can and will do?

[chicagopurple]

actually fatality rates are climbing nationally
the average age of covid inpatients is now down to 40 yrs old, so younger people are getting sicker
in states with poor immunization rates pediatric ICUs are now completely full and hospitals are having to turn away critically ill children, like some 3rd world nation....mostly in the southern states, Tx MS, AK LA et....its bad and flu hasnt even hit yet.

winter will be a disaster

[VikingsVictorious]

I guarantee you losing money or not wouldn't change his stance one iota. If you think different I'm certain you just don't understand the man.

Not to rain on anybody’s parade, but Cousins is out to make a buck, too.

Back in 2018, he initially got a $75 million offer from the Vikings. The Jets then came in at $90 million, and Cousins used that as leverage to get the Vikings up to $84 million, even though Cousins had no intention of ever playing for the Jets. He didn’t even visit them. All this is well documented and pretty much indisputable.

So yes, it could be said that Kirk Cousins took less money to play for the Vikings. And I’d guess he would stand on principle if push came to shove regarding COVID. But don’t try to tell us that money doesn’t matter to the man. While I don’t blame him for leveraging the Jets’ offer, let’s not anoint him to sainthood quite yet.

Of course he wants to be paid as much as possible. That's business. However, his COVID stance is about personal convictions. Push comes to Shove Cousins will not get the vaccine no matter how much money it costs him.

[VikingsVictorious]

I guarantee you losing money or not wouldn't change his stance one iota. If you think different I'm certain you just don't understand the man.

You base your knowledge of what Cousins would or wouldn't do on what? You know him personally or something?

I understand the type. I don't need to know him personally.

[CharVike]

I guarantee you losing money or not wouldn't change his stance one iota. If you think different I'm certain you just don't understand the man.

Not to rain on anybody’s parade, but Cousins is out to make a buck, too.

Back in 2018, he initially got a $75 million offer from the Vikings. The Jets then came in at $90 million, and Cousins used that as leverage to get the Vikings up to $84 million, even though Cousins had no intention of ever playing for the Jets. He didn’t even visit them. All this is well documented and pretty much indisputable.

So yes, it could be said that Kirk Cousins took less money to play for the Vikings. And I’d guess he would stand on principle if push came to shove regarding COVID. But don’t try to tell us that money doesn’t matter to the man. While I don’t blame him for leveraging the Jets’ offer, let’s not anoint him to sainthood quite yet.

Everybody is out to make a buck. I worked in corporate america for 25 years and everybody wanted more money. Nobody turned down a raise or a bonus. People making 100K didn't say give my increase to the poor guy making 30K. They said thank you I need it. Everybody playing in the NFL is out to make a buck. When we kick him down the road another team will pay him. He has a skill that's worth big time coin. He's worked his ars off to get were he is at. It wasn't given to him he earned it.

[CharVike]

Yes the QB is more scrutinized, but for some goofy reason people have an irrational disdain for Kirk. He's always courteous to everybody no matter how much they hound him and he almost always plays well for our Vikings.

I’ll chime in here.

No one has stood up more for Kirk Cousins over his 3 seasons in Minnesota than I have. I advocated for his signing, and I’ve defended him when he’s played well. In fairness, I’ve also been critical when he’s played poorly.

When he said, “If I die, I die,” I actually stood up for him. That is an indication that he has faith, that his life is not in his own hands.

BUT … when you miss a significant part of training camp because you aren’t vaccinated and you (inadvertently) run counter to league protocols, and THEN blame the Vikings for not providing a big enough meeting space, THAT indicates a lack of accountability.

Cousins should, in my opinion, stand up for what he believes. Don’t make excuses. If you believe it’s nobody’s damn business whether your personal health choices matches that of others, then man up and say so. It’s not the Vikings’ fault that he wound up on the COVID list. And don’t tell the media you’ll “do anything” to stay clear of landing on the list when clearly you won’t.

Again, I have supported Cousins when appropriate, and I think it’s been appropriate a lot. But in this instance, I think he’s wrong. He should either actually “do anything” and get the shot, or say “my bad” when he ends up on the COVID list. That’s not a goofy take or an irrational disdain for Cousins. It’s just my opinion.

I've stood up for Cousins also. Always said he's the best since Fran. That's still holds true. But I also wanted us to take Mac Jones when he fell in our laps. Rick who I wouldn't call a QB master, he got lucky with Cousins, by any stretch said no thanks I'll wait. That's a no risk it move. Now we have this practice squad stiff who had a good practice but I'm reading across the web that he should be No 1 because he's much better than Cousins. The guy was lucky to be on a practice squad. Any team could have grabbed him and they all said no thanks the last two years because he's crap. I give him credit for making it this far with that pop gun arm. And now it's Mond. He's 3-5 years away from being able to play more than a couple games and is another practice squad guy for now.