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This is funny to read because the radio announcers kept saying how Freeman had happy feet when the pocket was holding up for him. I can only assume someone is blind, just not sure who.

Webbfann wrote:This is funny to read because the radio announcers kept saying how Freeman had happy feet when the pocket was holding up for him. I can only assume someone is blind, just not sure who.

Freeman was stepping up and making throws in the pocket when it was collapsing around him. I didn't see him bail on the pocket at all when it was formed and he extended quite a few plays by making lateral moves when the pocket did fail (but always looking downfield). Ponder would have "tucked and ran" on many of the passes Freeman threw.

On second thought, give the accuracy issues, maybe Freeman should have had 'happy feet' and 'tucked it and ran'

AADPFan wrote:I didnt read the thread, so not sure if this has been discussed yet, but i am suprised that more people are not clammering about this.

But my big positive was watching Josh Freemans pocket presence, and his poise under pressure behind our porous O-line, he was contantly looking down field when on the move, thats a lot more than can be said about Ponder. Many of his passes were not even close, however a lot of them were right on target but a bit to high (and a bit to hard). I beleive that given some time to practice together Freeman and our receivers can get on the same page and perform. Even after last night i still beleive that Freeman has bigger up side than our other QBs.

I saw the thread, and decided I would post on this point, even though I thought you all would think I was crazy. I saw the same thing. I liked Freeman's pocket presence. He moved around the pocket in a way that Ponder and Cassel don't. He seemed to have a good feel for where pressure was coming from. The season is pretty well lost, so I'm happy (more or less) to see if he can get in sync with the receiving corps.

John_Viveiros wrote: I saw the thread, and decided I would post on this point, even though I thought you all would think I was crazy. I saw the same thing. I liked Freeman's pocket presence. He moved around the pocket in a way that Ponder and Cassel don't. He seemed to have a good feel for where pressure was coming from. The season is pretty well lost, so I'm happy (more or less) to see if he can get in sync with the receiving corps.

He's gotta watch out for those sneaky concussions....

AADPFan wrote:I didnt read the thread, so not sure if this has been discussed yet, but i am suprised that more people are not clammering about this.

But my big positive was watching Josh Freemans pocket presence, and his poise under pressure behind our porous O-line, he was contantly looking down field when on the move, thats a lot more than can be said about Ponder. Many of his passes were not even close, however a lot of them were right on target but a bit to high (and a bit to hard). I beleive that given some time to practice together Freeman and our receivers can get on the same page and perform. Even after last night i still beleive that Freeman has bigger up side than our other QBs.

Yeah I was impressed by that too. I thought his pocket work was Big Ben like. Slipping out of sacks, escapability, keeping plays alive, and constantly keeping his eyes down field. The receivers clearly weren't used to that type of play. You could see them give up after a short time before realizing plays were still alive and the QB wasn't taking off to run. On some scrambles I even seen the receivers go into block mode not realizing Freeman was actually still looking to pass lol.

The biggest positive for me is: at the end of the day I'm still a big fan of the NFL. Looks like I'm going to have to go all in on Peyton and the Broncos. If that doesn't work, I'll go for the Chiefs. That team gives me hope! (See what can happen in such a short time with the right coaches, QB, and players who believe? There's hope for a better tomorrow!) And if THAT doesn't work out...anyone but the Packers, Bears, and Saints.

And as far as the Vikings go, whenever I'm sad...I always have THIS to cheer me up:



Makes me smile every time!

MelanieMFunk wrote:The biggest positive for me is: at the end of the day I'm still a big fan of the NFL.

Ha! You know it's a bad year when the words "NFL" and "football" replace "Vikings" in most statements lol. But I agree, I love watching football even if the Vikings suck. Football season is way too short.

MelanieMFunk wrote:Looks like I'm going to have to go all in on Peyton and the Broncos.

I picked a 49ers vs Broncos Superbowl, but now I think I'd like to see a Seahawks vs Broncos bowl. That defense vs that offense would be an epic chess match.

MelanieMFunk wrote:If that doesn't work, I'll go for the Chiefs. That team gives me hope! (See what can happen in such a short time with the right coaches, QB, and players who believe? There's hope for a better tomorrow!)

I keep waiting for the wheels to come off in KC, but they keep finding a way to win. Even if they go 3-6 in the final 9 games they'll still finish 10-6 and probably end up a wildcard team. And because they play in the same division as Denver I believe they're going to be a wildcard team even if they go 12-4. Pretty sad considering 8-8 will win the NFC East lol.

MelanieMFunk wrote:And if THAT doesn't work out...anyone but the Packers, Bears, and Saints.

You forgot the Cowboys. You can't call yourself a Viking fan without hating the Cowpies. Crazy how nobody hates the Lions though. With them it's more like pity even though they're a division rival.

Positive: Even at times like these, it helps to have a sense of humor and laugh things off.

And for those of you who can't laugh now, maybe someday you'll be able to look back and do just that.



Happy Halloween!!!

Ponder threw his first TD pass over 20 yards since ............................ 2011?

Did he have one in 2011? I can't remember. But yeah first TD over 20 yards in over 600 pass attempts.

Oh wait ...

24 yards to Jenkins vs Packers in 2011
26 yards to Harvin vs Oakland in 2011
39 yards to Harvin at Atlanta in 2011
52 yards to Harvin vs Denver 2011
48 yards to Harvin vs Denver 2011

But I'd like to point out all those TD passes to Harvin were short passes with lots of RAC yards. Ponder has still not thrown a long TD pass into the EZ in his career.

Reignman wrote:But I'd like to point out all those TD passes to Harvin were short passes with lots of RAC yards. Ponder has still not thrown a long TD pass into the EZ in his career.

He threw this one 50+ yards in the air... to Harvin.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... e0c7b76357

Admittedly, that's just about the only TD like that he's thrown but he threw it!

No one was actually killed.

And it's not the first Viking team ever to start 1-8. Just 2-7 like 3 other seasons.

Tonight: John Carlson, J'Marcus Webb (hell of a game by him tonight), Kevin Williams, Everson Griffen.

The most important positive? We won!

I finally heard someone on the Vikings coaching staff show some emotion and it effected the game. Right before KWIll got his first sack, I heard " GET OFF YOU'RE BLOCKS!!!!!!! Loud enough to be picked up by the TV mics. The defense immediately turned it around and began assaulting RG3. Which affected his timing later in the game because he was hearing foot steps and was getting rid of the ball much quicker.
Williams also admitted that the whole defense got their butts chewed out. He mentioned that the coaches said to them " it doesn't matter if we make adjustments on the chalk board if you aren't going to execute on the field anyway"

Nice to see them NOT quit.