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Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:05 pm
by Maelstrom88
I guess all the company policy people were ok with teams not signing Kap and would be ok with a team cutting a player who kneels during the anthem too. Let's just say that owner had a policy of wanting his employees to stand and respect the anthem.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:06 pm
by Rhodes Closed
This topic certainly went off to a smashing start.
We got
Godwin's Law invoked on literally the second post, a false equivalency in regards to vaccines and vasectomies, and a lot of people who don't seem to understand the situation.
The NFL and the Minnesota Vikings are private businesses first and foremost. They are free to utilize their healthcare restrictions and bylaws as they wish. Dennison does not have an exemption, therefore he must comply with these regulations and bylaws. If people want to really say that enforcing a rule in which someone *has* to get a vaccine is similar in any way to the #### Germans, a government that suppressed and broke up entire voting blocs, created censorship of the media, destroyed free speech, and disallowed certain groups of people the right to live... then I'm sorry. I don't want to know you, nor do I want to associate with you, period.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:06 pm
by VikingTom
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:26 pm
VikingLord wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:31 pm
Please explain how terminating an at-will employee for refusing to comply with company policy is akin to Nazism... I'd love to understand how someone makes that leap...
So if the company asked them to get a vasectomy to ensure they wouldn't have a kid that would take away their attention from work would that be ok as well? What's funny is libs didn't want or trust the vaccine when Trump was in office but now it's totally changed. I didn't want it then or now. I can think for myself and don't need authority to tell me how to live my life. What happened to my body my choice? Why aren't players required to get them as well? If an outbreak starts it likely will come from a player and not a coach. Why are the vaccinated so afraid of the unvaccinated? Don't you trust that your vaccine will protect you?
I do not know you well enough to state whether you getting a vasectomy would improve the safety of others.

Sorry, J/K
Work rules dealing with safety are a far cry from a very questionable, (to say the least) policy of vasectomy. In terms of who did or did not trust the vaccine was about the process. As companies demonstrated a great deal of transparency thru the vaccine development the science came to be trusted by a good number of so called liberals. We wanted to see this end as badly as those on the right. Everybody was tired of the mitigation, and a good number of us looked to vaccines as the way back to some level of normalcy.
As for the players, my guess it has to do with the collective bargaining agreement. I understand the union leaders are encouraging players to get vaccinated, but I have not seen a push for a mandate. (Yet)
I understand there remains distrust and animosity, I also understand this is not the best place to delve too deeply into those issues. In the end the NFL set a standard, there were consequences for not meeting that standard.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:19 pm
by Maelstrom88
VikingTom wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:06 pm
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:26 pm
So if the company asked them to get a vasectomy to ensure they wouldn't have a kid that would take away their attention from work would that be ok as well? What's funny is libs didn't want or trust the vaccine when Trump was in office but now it's totally changed. I didn't want it then or now. I can think for myself and don't need authority to tell me how to live my life. What happened to my body my choice? Why aren't players required to get them as well? If an outbreak starts it likely will come from a player and not a coach. Why are the vaccinated so afraid of the unvaccinated? Don't you trust that your vaccine will protect you?
I do not know you well enough to state whether you getting a vasectomy would improve the safety of others.

Sorry, J/K
Work rules dealing with safety are a far cry from a very questionable, (to say the least) policy of vasectomy. In terms of who did or did not trust the vaccine was about the process. As companies demonstrated a great deal of transparency thru the vaccine development the science came to be trusted by a good number of so called liberals. We wanted to see this end as badly as those on the right. Everybody was tired of the mitigation, and a good number of us looked to vaccines as the way back to some level of normalcy.
As for the players, my guess it has to do with the collective bargaining agreement. I understand the union leaders are encouraging players to get vaccinated, but I have not seen a push for a mandate. (Yet)
I understand there remains distrust and animosity, I also understand this is not the best place to delve too deeply into those issues. In the end the NFL set a standard, there were consequences for not meeting that standard.
It will never end. Are we going to need a variant vaccine next? This vaccine is all big business and the government has become addicted to the power this has given them. Never let a crises go to waste right? If one doesn't exist create it.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:23 pm
by Maelstrom88
Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:06 pm
This topic certainly went off to a smashing start.
We got
Godwin's Law invoked on literally the second post, a false equivalency in regards to vaccines and vasectomies, and a lot of people who don't seem to understand the situation.
The NFL and the Minnesota Vikings are private businesses first and foremost. They are free to utilize their healthcare restrictions and bylaws as they wish. Dennison does not have an exemption, therefore he must comply with these regulations and bylaws. If people want to really say that enforcing a rule in which someone *has* to get a vaccine is similar in any way to the #### Germans, a government that suppressed and broke up entire voting blocs, created censorship of the media, destroyed free speech, and disallowed certain groups of people the right to live... then I'm sorry. I don't want to know you, nor do I want to associate with you, period.
My vote was suppressed when big cities rigged the election, my free speech has been censored as I will be banned for speaking my mind on gay marriage etc., and now the vaccinated are trying to make it a reality that the unvaccinated can't work and thus cant live. So yeah go ahead and not know me and bury your head in the sand period.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:26 pm
by Rhodes Closed
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:23 pm
Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:06 pm
This topic certainly went off to a smashing start.
We got
Godwin's Law invoked on literally the second post, a false equivalency in regards to vaccines and vasectomies, and a lot of people who don't seem to understand the situation.
The NFL and the Minnesota Vikings are private businesses first and foremost. They are free to utilize their healthcare restrictions and bylaws as they wish. Dennison does not have an exemption, therefore he must comply with these regulations and bylaws. If people want to really say that enforcing a rule in which someone *has* to get a vaccine is similar in any way to the #### Germans, a government that suppressed and broke up entire voting blocs, created censorship of the media, destroyed free speech, and disallowed certain groups of people the right to live... then I'm sorry. I don't want to know you, nor do I want to associate with you, period.
My vote was suppressed when big cities rigged the election, my free speech has been censored as I will be banned for speaking my mind on gay marriage etc., and now the vaccinated are trying to make it a reality that the unvaccinated can't work and thus cant live. So yeah go ahead and not know me and bury your head in the sand period.
You sound like a very fun person with that pretty blatant lie. I'm going to put you on ignore now, so bye.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:30 pm
by Rhodes Closed
Cliff, I'd honestly suggest you guys lock this thread because it's already gone way off course.
Also so we can focus on the DeDe Westbrook news!

Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:33 pm
by Maelstrom88
Someone believes Biden got 81 million votes without massive fraud

To believe that you would have to think he carried Obama to the Presidency and I guess you never wondered why he didn't run and win prior to his senile old age if he was that popular? Also why did he struggle in the primaries until they rigged that as well?
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:39 pm
by Rhodes Closed
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:33 pm
Someone believes Biden got 81 million votes without massive fraud

To believe that you would have to think he carried Obama to the Presidency and I guess you never wondered why he didn't run and win prior to his senile old age if he was that popular? Also why did he struggle in the primaries until they rigged that as well?
As a matter of fact, I do believe there was minimum fraud, until the FBI, CIA, and other government organizations prove otherwise. The burden of proof and all that, eh?
It's almost like people voted
against someone else instead of voting *for* him.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:49 pm
by Maelstrom88
It's almost as if the alphabet soup agencies are in on it huh?
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:51 pm
by Rhodes Closed
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:49 pm
It's almost as if the alphabet soup agencies are in on it huh?
So would you say you believe in the Q? Anonymously, of course.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by Maelstrom88
Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:51 pm
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:49 pm
It's almost as if the alphabet soup agencies are in on it huh?
So would you say you believe in the Q? Anonymously, of course.
What aspect of the Q? Ask me specifics not generalizations under a banner.
Re: Rick Dennison fired for refusing vaccine
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:59 pm
by S197
Shutting this down for obvious reasons. Lets move on.