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Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:09 pm
by PacificNorseWest
Zylstra just cant break through. Keeping 4 WRs and 4 TEs and 5 RBs tells you all you need to know about this offense. I'm not mad.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:20 pm
by Raptorman
Roster per Vikings.com

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G. Bradbury	56	C
Brett Jones	61	C
M. Alexander	20	CB
Kris Boyd	38	CB
Mark Fields		CB
Mike Hughes	21	CB
Xavier Rhodes	29	CB
Trae Waynes	26	CB
Everson Griffen	97	DE
Danielle Hunter	99	DE
Ifeadi Odenigbo	95	DE
S. Weatherly	91	DE
Jalyn Holmes	92	DT
Jaleel Johnson	94	DT
Linval Joseph	98	DT
H. Mata'afa	51	DT
S. Stephen	93	DT
Armon Watts	96	DT
C.J. Ham	30	FB
Dakota Dozier	78	G
Pat Elflein	65	G
Josh Kline	64	G
Dru Samia	73	G
Dan Bailey	5	K
Anthony Barr	55	LB
K. Brothers	40	LB
Ben Gedeon	42	LB
Eric Kendricks	54	LB
Eric Wilson	50	LB
Austin Cutting	58	LS
Matt Wile	6	P
Kirk Cousins	8	QB
Sean Mannion	4	QB
Ameer Abdullah	31	RB
Mike Boone	23	RB
Dalvin Cook	33	RB
A. Mattison	25	RB
Marcus Epps	39	S
Anthony Harris	41	S
Jayron Kearse	27	S
Harrison Smith	22	S
Rashod Hill	69	T
Brian O'Neill	75	T
Riley Reiff	71	T
Oli Udoh	74	T
Tyler Conklin	83	TE
B. Dillon	86	TE
Kyle Rudolph	82	TE
Irv Smith Jr.	84	TE
Chad Beebe	12	WR
Stefon Diggs	14	WR
Bisi Johnson	81	WR
Adam Thielen	19	WR

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:53 pm
by Mothman
PacificNorseWest wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:08 pm
Rhodes Closed wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:00 pm I for one love the overreacting.

We can get draft capital for Sloter. Indianapolis could desperately use a QB now that Luck has retired.
Chances are, they dont and he's just released. Secondly, they wasted draft capital with Vedvik, so I feel like the reactions are substantiated.
I agree. BTW, Sloter was released. I wonder if another team will claim him off the waiver wire.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:00 pm
by Tbolt
I don’t care what all you Zimmer apologists say, Sloter didn’t get a shot because of his bravado and belief in himself. Rubbed Zimmer the wrong way. I hope he gets a chance in the league and believe he will succeed if that door opens.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:22 pm
by Rhodes Closed
Tbolt wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:00 pm I don’t care what all you Zimmer apologists say, Sloter didn’t get a shot because of his bravado and belief in himself. Rubbed Zimmer the wrong way. I hope he gets a chance in the league and believe he will succeed if that door opens.
And what will your defense be if it turns out Sloter wasn't nearly as good as he looked against the 3's and 4's?

It wasn't the bravado or confidence that got him waived. It was the fact he wasn't a good player in Practice or made a lot of mental mistakes when not playing the game. Imagine if he went up against the Bears #1 Defense. Do you really have such confidence in the guy to keep calm under those circumstances when he's never sniffed the starting players or even the #2s?

People can piss and moan the decision to cut him all they want, and don't get me wrong, I don't agree with it. I would prefer to keep him around another year or two to let him develop more. But it's not the end of the world. It is never the end of the world.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:24 pm
by S197
PacificNorseWest wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:09 pm Zylstra just cant break through. Keeping 4 WRs and 4 TEs and 5 RBs tells you all you need to know about this offense. I'm not mad.
I’ll be surprised if it stays this way into the season. I think they’re either looking for another WR but aren’t happy with what they have or they activate Zylstra and cut a corner once Hughes is ready.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:52 pm
by CharVike
S197 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:08 pm
PurpleMustReign wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:15 pm

Idk why everyone was so high on Boyd. He looked slow and weak in the preseason.
Looks like Boyd is making the team.
We are a little thin at CB. They are looking for any scrub that's available. The same will hold true for WR. And what I saw in Rhodes movement I'm not convinced he's back to his whatever year form when he was a great player.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 pm
by StumpHunter
Rhodes Closed wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:22 pm
Tbolt wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:00 pm I don’t care what all you Zimmer apologists say, Sloter didn’t get a shot because of his bravado and belief in himself. Rubbed Zimmer the wrong way. I hope he gets a chance in the league and believe he will succeed if that door opens.
And what will your defense be if it turns out Sloter wasn't nearly as good as he looked against the 3's and 4's?

It wasn't the bravado or confidence that got him waived. It was the fact he wasn't a good player in Practice or made a lot of mental mistakes when not playing the game. Imagine if he went up against the Bears #1 Defense. Do you really have such confidence in the guy to keep calm under those circumstances when he's never sniffed the starting players or even the #2s?

People can piss and moan the decision to cut him all they want, and don't get me wrong, I don't agree with it. I would prefer to keep him around another year or two to let him develop more. But it's not the end of the world. It is never the end of the world.
Yep.

Sloter is gone because he wasn't good enough. No hidden agenda.

He had talent, but didn't have the experience to play professional QB at a passable level. He more than likely never will.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:00 pm
by J. Kapp 11
Lotta butthurt over a quarterback who has never taken a snap in an NFL regular season game.

I kinda liked him, too. But for crying out loud, you'd think we cut Adam Thielen.

Step away from the ledge, pessimists. Somehow we'll make it without Kyle Sloter.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:28 pm
by CharVike
StumpHunter wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 pm
Rhodes Closed wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:22 pm

And what will your defense be if it turns out Sloter wasn't nearly as good as he looked against the 3's and 4's?

It wasn't the bravado or confidence that got him waived. It was the fact he wasn't a good player in Practice or made a lot of mental mistakes when not playing the game. Imagine if he went up against the Bears #1 Defense. Do you really have such confidence in the guy to keep calm under those circumstances when he's never sniffed the starting players or even the #2s?

People can piss and moan the decision to cut him all they want, and don't get me wrong, I don't agree with it. I would prefer to keep him around another year or two to let him develop more. But it's not the end of the world. It is never the end of the world.
Yep.

Sloter is gone because he wasn't good enough. No hidden agenda.

He had talent, but didn't have the experience to play professional QB at a passable level. He more than likely never will.
He didn't show any improvement. Can't even challenge for the backup spot at this point. Speilman tried and it didn't work out. If there were interested teams we could have gotten a 7th rounder for him. I'm sure they tried. We might bring him back if our CB situation gets straight.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:36 pm
by Tbolt
Rhodes Closed wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:22 pm
Tbolt wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:00 pm I don’t care what all you Zimmer apologists say, Sloter didn’t get a shot because of his bravado and belief in himself. Rubbed Zimmer the wrong way. I hope he gets a chance in the league and believe he will succeed if that door opens.
And what will your defense be if it turns out Sloter wasn't nearly as good as he looked against the 3's and 4's?

It wasn't the bravado or confidence that got him waived. It was the fact he wasn't a good player in Practice or made a lot of mental mistakes when not playing the game. Imagine if he went up against the Bears #1 Defense. Do you really have such confidence in the guy to keep calm under those circumstances when he's never sniffed the starting players or even the #2s?

People can piss and moan the decision to cut him all they want, and don't get me wrong, I don't agree with it. I would prefer to keep him around another year or two to let him develop more. But it's not the end of the world. It is never the end of the world.
They replaced Simian with the exact same type in Mannion. How you can’t see that or even bother to question why they never gave him any snaps with the 2’s is beyond me. It was never an open competition and coaches hate being proved wrong.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:38 pm
by Tbolt
CharVike wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:28 pm
StumpHunter wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 pm

Yep.

Sloter is gone because he wasn't good enough. No hidden agenda.

He had talent, but didn't have the experience to play professional QB at a passable level. He more than likely never will.
He didn't show any improvement. Can't even challenge for the backup spot at this point. Speilman tried and it didn't work out. If there were interested teams we could have gotten a 7th rounder for him. I'm sure they tried. We might bring him back if our CB situation gets straight.
Just how many trades went down today for players that were about to be cut today? Such a stupid take.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:46 pm
by PurpleMustReign
Tbolt wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:38 pm
CharVike wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:28 pm
He didn't show any improvement. Can't even challenge for the backup spot at this point. Speilman tried and it didn't work out. If there were interested teams we could have gotten a 7th rounder for him. I'm sure they tried. We might bring him back if our CB situation gets straight.
Just how many trades went down today for players that were about to be cut today? Such a stupid take.
As opposed to the super intelligent "Sloter will be the face of the franchise" take that you made above.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:57 pm
by Tbolt
PurpleMustReign wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:46 pm
Tbolt wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:38 pm

Just how many trades went down today for players that were about to be cut today? Such a stupid take.
As opposed to the super intelligent "Sloter will be the face of the franchise" take that you made above.
I made no such post. Coaches all the time fail to play guys that don’t fit their mold.

So show me the post I made that assertion.

Re: 2019 Roster Moves and Transactions Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:18 pm
by StpViking
10 OL (11 if you count the LS)
4 RB + 1 FB
4 TEs
4 WRs

The Vikings are all in on the Outside Zone Scheme. If it fails, there is no plan B.