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Exactly. That's why I say spielman reminds me of David Kahn when he was the Timberwolves GM. He would just make trades to get his name in the paper. We have other needs that can legitimately be filled with the right players. RB in the third round is not one of them.S197 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:18 am MAYBE you get a guy like Kearse and weatherly. Maybe. I don't like getting that cute with early picks for the slim chance of late round success. We don't need 10picks nor do we have the space for that many. Fact is, most will he cut with maybe 1 or 2 making the team.
Ham can run and move with the ball very well. I want to see him more involved in the running game as a runner.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:18 pmHam is a FB. I'm not sure why he's involved with that group. Abdullah is a special teamer. Boone is the only factor here.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:13 pm This pick I don't like. We have Boone, Abdullah, and Ham. This seems like a wasted picj unless someone can change my mind.
Leroy Hoard runnerPondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:24 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTG6wGGhLL0
For those that think Mattison is "slow" or "not a good athlete", watch again. The kid is a straight up baller. Runs hard, very shifty at the line, patient, reads the field and defenders well at the next level, and has a lot more speed than some think. He's got that game speed. This kid is going to be a good RB for us. Reminds me a lot of Cook or Devonta Freeman. I watched tape on him like a month ago (for fantasy purposes, I'm in multiple dynasty leagues where rookies are valuable) and I liked Mattison, Miles Sanders and Hill the best out of the guys I watched. This kid can play
He's not a third round need though. If they were seriously targeting him the entire 3rd round, and they were able to make 63 trades before getting him and still drafting him in the third round, what does that tell you about how other teams viewed him?halfgiz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:30 amLeroy Hoard runnerPondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:24 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTG6wGGhLL0
For those that think Mattison is "slow" or "not a good athlete", watch again. The kid is a straight up baller. Runs hard, very shifty at the line, patient, reads the field and defenders well at the next level, and has a lot more speed than some think. He's got that game speed. This kid is going to be a good RB for us. Reminds me a lot of Cook or Devonta Freeman. I watched tape on him like a month ago (for fantasy purposes, I'm in multiple dynasty leagues where rookies are valuable) and I liked Mattison, Miles Sanders and Hill the best out of the guys I watched. This kid can play
I agree...From 81 to 102 a lot better talent got picked.PurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:32 amHe's not a third round need though. If they were seriously targeting him the entire 3rd round, and they were able to make 63 trades before getting him and still drafting him in the third round, what does that tell you about how other teams viewed him?
We're going to go 2 TE perhaps more than any team in the league.YikesVikes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:28 pmI would say 3rd WR is more important. As you point out teams (including us) are routinely in 3 WR sets. Our 3rd WR (aldrick) had 6 tds last season.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 pm
A 3rd WR is not more important. Last year, would you say Latavius Murray was more important or our 3rd WR? We have a back that has yet to play 16 games and don't have much of a backup behind him. We have the best WR duo in football. Not saying a 3rd WR isn't important, but it's much easier to get away with who we have at WR vs getting away with a below average backup RB.
As for Ferguson, he has off the field issues. Him falling isn't a surprise
I don't see why that's problematic. Of course they won't all make the team. Still, each pick is another roll of the dice and another shot at a keeper.S197 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:18 am MAYBE you get a guy like Kearse and weatherly. Maybe. I don't like getting that cute with early picks for the slim chance of late round success. We don't need 10picks nor do we have the space for that many. Fact is, most will he cut with maybe 1 or 2 making the team.
Hold onto Murray with what money? I guess I don’t understand how RB Wasn’t a 3rd (practically 4th) round need. We don’t have a backup and we don’t have a starter that has stayed healthy yet. Without cook, we’re starting an undrafted free agent. There isn’t a position in the nfl that takes more of a beating than RB. This is a 2 back league now. We knew we were going to draft a RB and we knew it would be mid to late rounds. I’m not sure why this pick is being so blown out of proportion. There were a TON of backs out there. So if we’re targeting a RB in the 3rd, we probably had a lot of them graded the same, hence trading down. Why not gain more picks and still get the guy you want. Now we have the opportunity to move anywhere we want today. Some of you guys are drooling over Hakeem Butler and going nuts that we passed on him twice, yet.....he’s still on the board. So what does that say about him? We have 9 picks today. That’s awesome if you ask me. We’re lucky to have 9 picks in an entire draft. Instead, we have 9 alone on day 3 with plenty of talent still on the board. I think it was a good movePurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:23 amHam can run and move with the ball very well. I want to see him more involved in the running game as a runner.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:18 pm
Ham is a FB. I'm not sure why he's involved with that group. Abdullah is a special teamer. Boone is the only factor here.
My point is, RB is not a third round need for us. Despite the fact that I hate when Spielman is in his trading kicks, I would have much rather he traded the pick if this guy is the only legitimate player he liked at this spot.
Unless they don't trust Cook's health, in which case they should have held on to Murray.
Exactly. And we not have ammo to literally move up to the first pick today if we wanted. It’s just common sense. If you have 2 picks between the 6-7th compared to 7 picks in the 6th and 7th, the probability of you landing an impact player is drastically higher than it was going in. And I can also GUARANTEE, Spielman isn’t sitting still with all these picks. He mentioned last night how they now have the ability to trade up in the 4th or 5th if they want. Guys are acting like he got these picks so he could stay in those spots and draft a bunch of 7th round picks. Spielman is going to move around today.fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:46 amI don't see why that's problematic. Of course they won't all make the team. Still, each pick is another roll of the dice and another shot at a keeper.S197 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:18 am MAYBE you get a guy like Kearse and weatherly. Maybe. I don't like getting that cute with early picks for the slim chance of late round success. We don't need 10picks nor do we have the space for that many. Fact is, most will he cut with maybe 1 or 2 making the team.
How many of them 9 picks will make the 54? We're not rebuilding the team. Just trying to fill a few holes with quality people.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:49 amHold onto Murray with what money? I guess I don’t understand how RB Wasn’t a 3rd (practically 4th) round need. We don’t have a backup and we don’t have a starter that has stayed healthy yet. Without cook, we’re starting an undrafted free agent. There isn’t a position in the nfl that takes more of a beating than RB. This is a 2 back league now. We knew we were going to draft a RB and we knew it would be mid to late rounds. I’m not sure why this pick is being so blown out of proportion. There were a TON of backs out there. So if we’re targeting a RB in the 3rd, we probably had a lot of them graded the same, hence trading down. Why not gain more picks and still get the guy you want. Now we have the opportunity to move anywhere we want today. Some of you guys are drooling over Hakeem Butler and going nuts that we passed on him twice, yet.....he’s still on the board. So what does that say about him? We have 9 picks today. That’s awesome if you ask me. We’re lucky to have 9 picks in an entire draft. Instead, we have 9 alone on day 3 with plenty of talent still on the board. I think it was a good movePurpleMustReign wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:23 am
Ham can run and move with the ball very well. I want to see him more involved in the running game as a runner.
My point is, RB is not a third round need for us. Despite the fact that I hate when Spielman is in his trading kicks, I would have much rather he traded the pick if this guy is the only legitimate player he liked at this spot.
Unless they don't trust Cook's health, in which case they should have held on to Murray.
I think it is universally acknowledged that if the vikings select 9 plus players today, most of them will not be on the day 1 roster. The question is whether selecting 6 times at a later point in the draft or 1 time earlier in the draft is more likely to lead to the selection of someone who will be a significant contributor.halfgiz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:01 amHow many of them 9 picks will make the 54? We're not rebuilding the team. Just trying to fill a few holes with quality people.Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:49 am
Hold onto Murray with what money? I guess I don’t understand how RB Wasn’t a 3rd (practically 4th) round need. We don’t have a backup and we don’t have a starter that has stayed healthy yet. Without cook, we’re starting an undrafted free agent. There isn’t a position in the nfl that takes more of a beating than RB. This is a 2 back league now. We knew we were going to draft a RB and we knew it would be mid to late rounds. I’m not sure why this pick is being so blown out of proportion. There were a TON of backs out there. So if we’re targeting a RB in the 3rd, we probably had a lot of them graded the same, hence trading down. Why not gain more picks and still get the guy you want. Now we have the opportunity to move anywhere we want today. Some of you guys are drooling over Hakeem Butler and going nuts that we passed on him twice, yet.....he’s still on the board. So what does that say about him? We have 9 picks today. That’s awesome if you ask me. We’re lucky to have 9 picks in an entire draft. Instead, we have 9 alone on day 3 with plenty of talent still on the board. I think it was a good move
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