Vikings draft WR Moritz Boehringer

[autobon7]

That really is the framework with which to view this pick. Patterson has proven that an athletic specimen with very underdeveloped technique and awareness of the craft of WR is really not a recipe for success with this team.

I heard the NFLN praise the way that Speilman and Zimmer work together to form a unified vision for the team. I see that on the defensive side of the ball, but it seems to me like there is a serious disconnect between the Ricker (who loves these WR "projects" apparently) and Norv/ offensive minded Zim.

My thoughts about the comparison between Mo and Patterson.......1. While I have always liked CP and have felt there is something going on behind the scenes that we can only guess and speculate at, one thing is certain is that he likes the spotlight and kind of a diva. Perhaps that is a turn off in the eyes of Zim/Norv. 2. Well documented that he turned down the offer for off season tutelage which may have lead to the feeling that he is lazy, not concerned etc. 3. CP was not drafted by this regime of coaches so perhaps they see him as "not their kinda guy" in regards to attitude, work ethic, intelligence, etc

Mo on the other hand seems to be the polar opposite in that he comes across as super humble and prolly willing to jump off a cliff if the staff asks him to. More than likely will have a superb work ethic (remains to be seen). This just adds to the whole "what is going on with CP" scenario. If we see Mo returning kicks in the pre-season.....look out lol

[jackal]

Zimmer and company aren't dumb they know
Rodger wants to expand the NFL worldwide.
Having a German player on the the Vikings would
be a great advance towards that goal. The Vikings
are have a lot of PR strength right now. New stadium,
Division winner. Zimmer well respected. Clean program.

[losperros]

It looks that way to me too.

I absolutely agree with both of you.

This just adds to the whole "what is going on with CP" scenario. If we see Mo returning kicks in the pre-season.....look out lol

And iF we see Mo returning kicks in the regular season, it will be a mistake. Patterson is the best KR in the league. As long as he's on the team, Patterson should be used for kick off returns.

[Texas Vike]

My thoughts about the comparison between Mo and Patterson.......1. While I have always liked CP and have felt there is something going on behind the scenes that we can only guess and speculate at, one thing is certain is that he likes the spotlight and kind of a diva. Perhaps that is a turn off in the eyes of Zim/Norv. 2. Well documented that he turned down the offer for off season tutelage which may have lead to the feeling that he is lazy, not concerned etc. 3. CP was not drafted by this regime of coaches so perhaps they see him as "not their kinda guy" in regards to attitude, work ethic, intelligence, etc

Mo on the other hand seems to be the polar opposite in that he comes across as super humble and prolly willing to jump off a cliff if the staff asks him to. More than likely will have a superb work ethic (remains to be seen). This just adds to the whole "what is going on with CP" scenario. If we see Mo returning kicks in the pre-season.....look out lol

Interesting speculation. It may or may not be accurate. I think Zimmer is the kind of guy that just demands a certain professionalism and intelligence and sees a lack of it in CP. That's just my speculation.

The thing that I feel like people are missing though? This guy played against REALLY low level competition. Seriously, I think some HIGH SCHOOL teams in here in Texas would probably give the Unicorns a very tough game. I'm not exaggerating.

One of my good friends in HS was Mr. Basketball for the state of MN (over 20 years ago now). He got screwed over by Clem Haskins, but ended up with a scholarship to play NCAA ball. After being unbelievable in HS (50 point games, leading the team to state finals, etc.) he was very mediocre at the next level.

The German Unicorn has the measurables, but the level of competition he's faced doesn't even come close to what he's about to see. Most guys just can't make that transition, so I'm not holding my breath. Should be fun to watch, though; everyone loves this kind of underdog story. Ach ja!

[autobon7]

And iF we see Mo returning kicks in the regular season, it will be a mistake. Patterson is the best KR in the league. As long as he's on the team, Patterson should be used for kick off returns.[/quote]

I was implying that if they test the waters with MO returning kicks in the preseason then perhaps they are looking to trade/dump Patterson as they will not be able to carry Tread, Diggs, Wright, Johnson, Thielen, Patterson, and MO. Realistically I think Mo goes to the PS......and I hope no one steals him away.

[autobon7]

Lets not forget we went through this a year ago with Babs.....who is in training with the WWE now. But hey.....IMHO this is what you should do with later round picks with a stout roster.....low risk high reward.

[fiestavike]

The thing that I feel like people are missing though? This guy played against REALLY low level competition.

I don't think anybody is overlooking that. Its just a fun story. Like you said, everybody loves the underdog...and Moritz is certainly that!

[Texas Vike]

I don't think anybody is overlooking that. Its just a fun story. Like you said, everybody loves the underdog...and Moritz is certainly that!

I think about 50% of the board is overlooking that, honestly. I understand where the enthusiasm is coming from, everyone loves fairy tales and unicorns, but it needs to be tempered with a healthy dose of realism.

[fiestavike]

I think about 50% of the board is overlooking that, honestly. I understand where the enthusiasm is coming from, everyone loves fairy tales and unicorns, but it needs to be tempered with a healthy dose of realism.

maybe. I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than 2 or 3 people who expect him to make the 53 man roster.

[Mothman]

I think about 50% of the board is overlooking that, honestly. I understand where the enthusiasm is coming from, everyone loves fairy tales and unicorns, but it needs to be tempered with a healthy dose of realism.

I agree. It's a fun roll of the dice and a "feel good' story. In that sense, I'm okay with it, especially because I know someone in Germany whose son plays football. However, it's a pretty cavalier use of a 6th round pick.

[jackal]

Lets not forget we went through this a year ago with Babs.....who is in training with the WWE now. But hey.....IMHO this is what you should do with later round picks with a stout roster.....low risk high reward.

apples and oranges.. Babs only had one thing size.. he had no technique and his English comprehension was much lower.

I watch Zimmer dicussing Mo and that is something they looked into already was his English comprehension.
Mo also runs world class speed for his a huge wide out. Mo also runs a decent route tree and has done special
teams. I don't think he is a lock by any means but I think he has a decent shot. Bap's was also not drafted and
came in late behind the group.

[Texas Vike]

maybe. I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than 2 or 3 people who expect him to make the 53 man roster.

Upthread you said it would be up to him [Moritz], to which Jim answered with a "NOOOOOOO!".

I would add about 40 o's to that.

My guess of how it unfolds? He demonstrates utter determination, discipline, and diligence only to fade into obscurity and realize that he simply was unable to adapt to a much more advanced level. In other words, it wasn't up to him AT ALL.

[fiestavike]

Upthread you said it would be up to him [Moritz], to which Jim answered with a "NOOOOOOO!".

I would add about 40 o's to that.

My guess of how it unfolds? He demonstrates utter determination, discipline, and diligence only to fade into obscurity and realize that he simply was unable to adapt to a much more advanced level. In other words, it wasn't up to him AT ALL.

That was a joke for Jim. I'm pretty sure he picked up on it.

[Texas Vike]

Mo also runs a decent route tree.

I've seen you write this twice now.
Where are you getting his from? His highlight reel shows one route: bubble screen (to the right), German Unicorn (GU hereafter) runs past everyone else.

[Texas Vike]

That was a joke for Jim. I'm pretty sure he picked up on it.

Ah, OK. It did seem incongruent with most of your takes.