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Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:10 pm
by autobon7
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I expect to see different faces on the OL (Easton, Kerin, Sirles, Shepherd, ?). At least 1 maybe 2 from this list and perhaps a FA and/or DP. I just don't have the gut feeling that they are going to roll out the old squad. With that being said I just feel it would be a mistake to use a high pick on a WR.....or spend big bucks on a FA. If Wallace does not return then they may have to address that issue but I feel OL, DB, LB should take top priority. I'm hoping Waynes is ready to ascend and we can secure a top shelf S.......really close to having a shut down defense and I hope that draft trend continues.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:29 pm
by Cliff
Did anybody else watch the 1.5 minute video attached with the article. He really talks up Mike Wallace and how much he likes him. With the way he works and competes he'll "always be one of my kind of guys". Had I missed that posted somewhere else? I hadn't seen Zimmer be so enthusiastic about Wallace in the past.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:39 pm
by autobon7
Zim has stated on a number of occasions that Wallace is his kind of guy. In this vid (just posted) http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... a020d2cbb1 Slick Rick talks him up as well.....unprompted.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:37 pm
by Demi
autobon7 wrote:Zim has stated on a number of occasions that Wallace is his kind of guy. In this vid (just posted) http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... a020d2cbb1 Slick Rick talks him up as well.....unprompted.
Probably prompted by the fact he traded for him.
Oh, and Wallace has the highest cap hit on the roster next year at 11.5 million.

We could have started any other WR on the roster and got similar production. We could draft a receiver anywhere in the draft, give them every snap Wallace would otherwise get, and the drop off wouldn't be that much. I'm not sure what this fascination with Wallace is?
“He was a true professional and everything he was asked to do, he did,” Spielman said. “His leadership was key to what we did on the field.”

Wallace caught a career-low 39 passes in 2015, but the Vikings made the playoffs for the first time in three years.
:puke:
I guess maybe if they get on their knees enough he'll take that pay cut? It'd be insanity to keep this guy around while Teddy is the QB. We don't have a QB capable of taking advantage of Wallace's skill set on this roster. And we're not going to until after Wallace is out of the league. I honestly wonder what is going on behind the scenes, all of these media fluff pieces are mind boggling.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:03 am
by losperros
Demi wrote:It'd be insanity to keep this guy around while Teddy is the QB. We don't have a QB capable of taking advantage of Wallace's skill set on this roster. And we're not going to until after Wallace is out of the league. I honestly wonder what is going on behind the scenes, all of these media fluff pieces are mind boggling.
That's why I question if Wallace will even want to remain a Viking. It doesn't matter what great buddies Wallace and Zimmer are. What's important is that Wallace can't show his best work on this offense, not with a QB that can't get the ball to him downfield.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:01 am
by Cliff
losperros wrote: That's why I question if Wallace will even want to remain a Viking. It doesn't matter what great buddies Wallace and Zimmer are. What's important is that Wallace can't show his best work on this offense, not with a QB that can't get the ball to him downfield.
Wallace wants to remain a Vikings if it means he keeps that pay check, for sure. He won't see that anywhere else.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:20 am
by jackal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpPqP9vFqWA
Lewis Bowling Green
like this guy .. good body control and burst .. seems a decent route runner, as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN7J0341wrc

Sharpe UMass 6-2 reminds me of John Taylor kinda guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_CmmuyZdw

Keyarris Jarrett 6-4 mid round projected pick
seems to use his size well to bring in contested balls
made some tough catches in college

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:36 am
by mansquatch
i'm really OK with them giving Wallace another year. It isn't surprising he had a down year given our OL situation and a 2nd year QB. Those two issue impact the deep passing game more than anything else. The key for me is we know Wallace can be an asset in the deep passing game, so why give that up?

It doesn't feel like his contract is putting us in a place where they have to decide to keep him vs another guy. If it were I'm sure they'd change it.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:33 am
by losperros
Cliff wrote: Wallace wants to remain a Vikings if it means he keeps that pay check, for sure. He won't see that anywhere else.
I agree, Cliff. Wallace wants to keep his fat paycheck.

OTOH, if Wallace wants to show what he can do as a deep receiver, he better hope the Vikings shore up the OL and Bridgewater improves his game. As it is now, the OL too often looks narcoleptic with its pass blocking and Bridgewater can't hit the broad side of a barn, let alone a receiver, with a deep pass.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:41 am
by Cliff
losperros wrote: I agree, Cliff. Wallace wants to keep his fat paycheck.

OTOH, if Wallace wants to show what he can do as a deep receiver, he better hope the Vikings shore up the OL and Bridgewater improves his game. As it is now, the OL too often looks narcoleptic with its pass blocking and Bridgewater can't hit the broad side of a barn, let alone a receiver, with a deep pass.
If he leaves it'll be over money. He's 29 (30 by next season) and this is probably his last chance for a big payday. If the Vikings try to make him take less money he'll probably test FA.

I'm not sure if it's worth it even if he does restructure though. Nearly any WR in the league with that many snaps could reproduce Wallace's production. I agree with Demi on that point. If this is the only way Wallace will be used he's a waste of a roster spot. Then again, perhaps him and Teddy need more than one season to develop chemistry.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:39 pm
by losperros
Cliff wrote:If he leaves it'll be over money. He's 29 (30 by next season) and this is probably his last chance for a big payday. If the Vikings try to make him take less money he'll probably test FA.

I'm not sure if it's worth it even if he does restructure though. Nearly any WR in the league with that many snaps could reproduce Wallace's production. I agree with Demi on that point. If this is the only way Wallace will be used he's a waste of a roster spot. Then again, perhaps him and Teddy need more than one season to develop chemistry.
Absolutely agree. :thumbsup:

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:12 pm
by Demi
Cliff wrote: Wallace wants to remain a Vikings if it means he keeps that pay check, for sure. He won't see that anywhere else.
Which is why it's ridiculous to even keep him around. The only reason he would stay is greed. If the team would match whatever his price is, it isn't worth it, it's his best interest and not the teams. He doesn't fit. I wouldn't want him for league minimum. We could get a better fit for league minimum!!!

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:43 pm
by Norv Zimmer
Josh doctson looked really good at the combine. Not the fastest but seemed like he was very crisp with his cuts, has a huge catch radius, and had no drops.
Really wouldn't mind him at 23.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:12 pm
by dead_poet
Norv Zimmer wrote:Josh doctson looked really good at the combine. Not the fastest but seemed like he was very crisp with his cuts, has a huge catch radius, and had no drops.
Really wouldn't mind him at 23.
He did himself very well.

Re: Minnesota Vikings’ production underscores need for WR

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:36 pm
by IIsweet
Didn't see Doctson but really liked Shepherd from Oklahoma.
Quick and catches everything. Also, the NFL network kept mentioning how weak this WR class is.