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Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:01 pm
by DK Sweets
Mothman wrote: Clever thread title...

Bridgewater's showing why he fell out of favor prior to the draft and driving his truck toward Bust City. Hopefully, he can steer out of it. He's not a lost cause but at this point, he's basically a liability and and it's going to take a LOT of improvement for him to become the player the Vikes want him to be.
I dunno Jim, we don't know what the coaches game plan is...maybe they wanted the offense to put up less than 150 yards. I'm just saying, maybe we should hold off criticism until we get more information...

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:09 pm
by autobon7
indianation65 wrote:I was in the Cassel corner. Do not blame him for what Dallas has done this year. Dallas blows.
As far as TB, you cats closer to the team and getting more coverage of the Vikes than I do down here in Texas, what is the qb's coach like, are you on board with him?

...wisdom
I am NOT onboard with the OCs........ :deadhorse:

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:10 pm
by Raptorman
purplehaze wrote:Yeah I am officially in the camp he sucks now. Draft a QB please.
Seriously. We need to get rid of Peterson as well. He's washed up. Look how well he did today. Man he sucks now as well.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:11 pm
by saint33
I think people lose site of the big picture far too often. Is was just one year ago that bridgewater looked like a franchise QB in the making. He has played very poorly as of late, but hit hasn't exactly had a ton of help around him, the oline is putrid and Norv is only playing to his strengths every 3rd game or so. No excuses, reality. Bridgewater is a part of an overall problem with our passing game.

The idea of giving up on him this early is ridiculous. Could he be a bust? Ya he could. Could it be a sophomore slump? Ya it could. We won't know until we let the process play out.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:12 pm
by autobon7
Even Blaine Gabbert could do this today.... C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG
18/32 196 6.1 1 0 4-26 84.9

Of course the Bears D is not the Seahawks D but it's so frustrating

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:13 pm
by Raptorman
saint33 wrote:I think people lose site of the big picture far too often. Is was just one year ago that bridgewater looked like a franchise QB in the making. He has played very poorly as of late, but hit hasn't exactly had a ton of help around him, the oline is putrid and Norv is only playing to his strengths every 3rd game or so. No excuses, reality. Bridgewater is a part of an overall problem with our passing game.

The idea of giving up on him this early is ridiculous. Could he be a bust? Ya he could. Could it be a sophomore slump? Ya it could. We won't know until we let the process play out.
No, he's bust. After all, there are so many options at drafting a QB in the Draft, we should be able to get a HOF no matter were the Vikings pick.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:13 pm
by autobon7
Raptorman wrote: Seriously. We need to get rid of Peterson as well. He's washed up. Look how well he did today. Man he sucks now as well.
Are you kidding me??? You have to be joking.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:16 pm
by saint33
autobon7 wrote: Are you kidding me??? You have to be joking.
He's being sarcastic, pointing out the knee jerk reaction of this board

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:18 pm
by Raptorman
autobon7 wrote: Are you kidding me??? You have to be joking.
He's had 4 bad games now this year. If he has a bad game the Vikings lose. There is no indication he will get any better, he over 30 and it's only a matter of time. He's become a liability with his fumbles again and inability to rush against top defense's.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:21 pm
by Mothman
saint33 wrote:I think people lose site of the big picture far too often. Is was just one year ago that bridgewater looked like a franchise QB in the making.
That was hardly a unanimous view, here or among NFl scouts, GMs, etc.
He has played very poorly as of late, but hit hasn't exactly had a ton of help around him, the oline is putrid and Norv is only playing to his strengths every 3rd game or so. No excuses, reality. Bridgewater is a part of an overall problem with our passing game.

The idea of giving up on him this early is ridiculous. Could he be a bust? Ya he could. Could it be a sophomore slump? Ya it could. We won't know until we let the process play out.
They don't have to give up on him but they should be looking hard for an alternative/upgrade (and nobody is saying that's easy). This franchise needs to stop repeating the mistake of putting all of their hopes in a young QB like Jackson, Ponder, or Bridgewater and not doing a sufficient job of preparing themselves for the possibility that player could fail, suffer a catastrophic injury, etc. It's one thing to go through the process and see if a payer can develop, its another to keep getting caught with their pants down when it doesn't work out.

... and veteran journeyman QBs aren't a solution.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:23 pm
by The Breeze
Describe it however you like, TB is clearly uncomfortable in all but a few aspects of this offense.
It's not just the o-line. There were several times today that TB had time to throw and didn't...and when he did go downfield it was grossly overthrown until his late attempts when the game was outta hand.
That could be said for pretty much every game this season.
It's proving, if not proven, to be a bad fit and something needs to change if they hope to contend...but I disagree that he just needs more time in this system the way it's being run.
That it seems Norv Zimmer are staying fixed on TB adapting, rather than the other way around is pretty eyebrow raising.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:25 pm
by Raptorman
Of course the Vikings offense does squat and the only thread that is started is how bad Bridgewater is. Nothing about the Wr's, the O-line giving him 0 time for plays to even develop. Granted he has held on to the ball at times, but when the defense is in the back field 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. Well it's time to replace the QB. And then when he does make a play, it's effing holding or some BS offensive pass interference. I doubt he had two plays back to back were he had 3 seconds to play with. Even 2 seconds.

Tell me please. Which QB in the draft will be better than Bridgewater? One that we will be able to draft without selling the farm.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:26 pm
by purplehaze
I have been a Vikings fan for over 40 years. Been to many games, buy lots of merchandise, groomed my kids to be die hard fans. I feel like we Viking fans deserve to get lucky and draft a superstar QB one of these years. Why cant we draft the real deal for once? Will this ever happen in my lifetime??? I am 48 years old right now.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:31 pm
by autobon7
purplehaze wrote:I have been a Vikings fan for over 40 years. Been to many games, buy lots of merchandise, groomed my kids to be die hard fans. I feel like we Viking fans deserve to get lucky and draft a superstar QB one of these years. Why cant we draft the real deal for once? Will this ever happen in my lifetime??? I am 48 years old right now.

Same......I'll be 50 next week and it's been sooo long since we drafted a top tier QB.

Re: Bridge to nowhere

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:32 pm
by Norv Zimmer
At the game today, wtf teddy throw the #### ball. Seriously teddy throws it to asiata more than anyone..... WHEN IT'S 3RD AND 40!