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Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:29 pm
by TheIrishVikingsFan
was i the only person who got kind of excited thinking miami had given us there 3rd and 5th round picks....... :govikes: :govikes: :govikes:

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:34 pm
by Texas Vike
TheIrishVikingsFan wrote:was i the only person who got kind of excited thinking miami had given us there 3rd and 5th round picks....... :govikes: :govikes: :govikes:

That's EXACTLY what I thought at first too. I was pretty stoked to hear how we pulled it off.

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:45 pm
by DK Sweets
You two are definitely not the only ones who saw MIA and thought "Dolphins" haha

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:05 am
by PurpleMustReign
I actually thought we got that for AD. I was going to be very upset.

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Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:39 am
by Mothman
Texas Vike wrote:Thanks for posting those, Jim. Like I said upstream, the fact that Yankey was projected all over the place is what is interesting. His case is also interesting because of the supposedly superior strength and conditioning program at Stanford, which doesn't jibe well with the fact that he was considered out of shape in camp and throughout the season. He's a bit of an enigma. It also seems to me that he can serve as a litmus for measuring how well different media "draft experts" evaluate certain positions. Obviously, it's just one player, a very small sample size, so I won't make any strong negative conclusions about Mayock's abilities, but it goes on his record.
Yankey's definitely enigmatic in the sense you described above and yes, it is good to note how far off Mayock's take on him ended up being. At this time of year, I think It's good to remember that these draft analysts aren't scouts and while most of the top analysts do a good job, they can be quite far off in their evaluations.

Of course, so can teams...

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:04 pm
by Bigwehrm
Is Tiny Richardson done for? Is he gonna be able to come back after injury last year? He can't be worse than Johnson at left guard can he.

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:14 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Bigwehrm wrote:Is Tiny Richardson done for? Is he gonna be able to come back after injury last year? He can't be worse than Johnson at left guard can he.
I can't ever see Richardson playing guard. He's an offensive tackle through and through. Also, I haven't heard anything regarding his status but he is still on the team

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:02 am
by jackal
Why couldn't a Offensive tackle play guard ? Is it the lateral inside
Movement ?

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:00 am
by dead_poet
jackal wrote:Why couldn't a Offensive tackle play guard ? Is it the lateral inside
Movement ?
If I'm not mistaken, tackles tend to be taller, better agility, more athletic, better feet, longer, and leaner. Tackles tend to be over 6'5 and weigh 290 to 330 (give or take). Tackles have to block the faster, albeit smaller DE and OLB so they tend to have good speed. Guards tend to be shorter than 6'4 and weigh 290 to 340. Less length in some cases stronger and more stout in some cases due having to block bigger defensive tackles. Some tackles get moved to guard because of foot speed and technique. In general a tackle can move to guard but a guard can't move to tackle (as easily).

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:28 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote: If I'm not mistaken, tackles tend to be taller, better agility, more athletic, better feet, longer, and leaner. Tackles tend to be over 6'5 and weigh 290 to 330 (give or take). Tackles have to block the faster, albeit smaller DE and OLB so they tend to have good speed. Guards tend to be shorter than 6'4 and weigh 290 to 340. Less length in some cases stronger and more stout in some cases due having to block bigger defensive tackles. Some tackles get moved to guard because of foot speed and technique. In general a tackle can move to guard but a guard can't move to tackle (as easily).
I think it's that height difference that can be problematic for a tackle moving inside. DTs try to get underneath the blocker to gain leverage and that's obviously a little easier against a 6' 6" or 6'7" tackle than against a 6' 3" guard.

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:28 am
by Pondering Her Percy
jackal wrote:Why couldn't a Offensive tackle play guard ? Is it the lateral inside
Movement ?
I'm not saying it's impossible but Richardson is 6'6 336 lbs. I'm not sure if there is a guard in the NFL that is that big. He has no experience at guard and has always been a traditional LT. I can't see him randomly moving to guard. I would hope he could become healthy enough to be on the final 53 next year. He handled Clowney pretty well when he was at Tennessee

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:28 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote: If I'm not mistaken, tackles tend to be taller, better agility, more athletic, better feet, longer, and leaner. Tackles tend to be over 6'5 and weigh 290 to 330 (give or take). Tackles have to block the faster, albeit smaller DE and OLB so they tend to have good speed. Guards tend to be shorter than 6'4 and weigh 290 to 340. Less length in some cases stronger and more stout in some cases due having to block bigger defensive tackles. Some tackles get moved to guard because of foot speed and technique. In general a tackle can move to guard but a guard can't move to tackle (as easily).
I think it's that height difference that can be problematic for a tackle moving inside. DTs try to get underneath the blocker to gain leverage and that's obviously a little easier against a 6' 6" or 6'7" tackle than against a 6' 3" guard.

Re: Two MIA picks 3rd and 5th rounds

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:28 am
by Pondering Her Percy
jackal wrote:Why couldn't a Offensive tackle play guard ? Is it the lateral inside
Movement ?
I'm not saying it's impossible but Richardson is 6'6 336 lbs. I'm not sure if there is a guard in the NFL that is that big. He has no experience at guard and has always been a traditional LT. I can't see him randomly moving to guard. I would hope he could become healthy enough to be on the final 53 next year. He handled Clowney pretty well when he was at Tennessee