What do you think AD would garner in a trade?

[IIsweet]

Tough for Dallas with current contracts.
I think Dez is also due for a new deal. They HAVE TO keep him.
If they can afford it....... Dallas would definitely give up their late round first for the best RB in the game !

That said..... I hope we keep him.

[dkoby]

It looks better by the day, doesn't it? But at the time it was only viewed as "good" or "fair" due largely to Harvin not yet burning two bridges and an additional injury. His value was a lot higher then than it is now.

Since Percy was brought up, I thought I would pass this along here.

I was having dinner at a local establishment and met some personal acquaintances of Chad Greenway. He (Chad) said " there are two guys on this team who have far and above unbelievable physical talent. One is AD, the other is Percy Harvin, but Percy is as dumb as a box of rocks. He never knows where to line up or what to do"
Makes more sense that the guy can't stick with a team or be much more than a gadget guy.

[PurpleKoolaid]

I find it interesting that quite a few people think there is some trade value for AD now, when last year, or even at the start of this season, it was an absurd idea. What changed? His contract didn't. If anything, he's more damaged goods now, and has the wrong kind of attention.

Making a trade now, however, would be the best outcome. The cap space would be huge. but then, some would think we would have to waste a 1st or high 2nd on a RB. And we don't need that. Mckinnon/Asiata are just fine for next year (why waste a 3rd rd pick?). Or get another mid round RB. But Rb's just aernt worth the first round pick imo. And I love the idea of Gordon on our team. But Parker/Cooper make a lot more sense.

[Texas Vike]

I find it interesting that quite a few people think there is some trade value for AD now, when last year, or even at the start of this season, it was an absurd idea. What changed? His contract didn't. If anything, he's more damaged goods now, and has the wrong kind of attention.

Making a trade now, however, would be the best outcome. The cap space would be huge. but then, some would think we would have to waste a 1st or high 2nd on a RB. And we don't need that. Mckinnon/Asiata are just fine for next year (why waste a 3rd rd pick?). Or get another mid round RB. But Rb's just aernt worth the first round pick imo. And I love the idea of Gordon on our team. But Parker/Cooper make a lot more sense.

The thinking is that a game changing RB may be the best way to improve our overall offense. The question I've often had is how much difference is there between a RB taken in the first round and one taken in say rd. 4-5? This year, I think Gordon and Gurley warrant a first, though possibly not as high as 11. I think the fact that so many WRs are taken in rounds 1-3 lately is very telling, especially compared to how few RBs are taken in those rounds in the past 3 years. It illustrates how the game's changed. I don't think we have any shot at Cooper sitting at 11.

[Mercy Percy]

Do you really honest to god think Jerry Jones would give up a 1st round pick when he has arguably one of the best RB's in the league on his roster... come on the guys not an idiot.

[Pondering Her Percy]

There is no proof that McKinnon is fine starting next year. He couldn't stay healthy this year and wasn't even getting a full workload. To say McKinnon and Asiata are "just fine" going into next year tell me nothing and is pure speculation. Neither player has proved anything at all. Just riding these guys into next year (if we don't have AP) and thinking we'll be okay just isn't smart thinking. This is the best RB class to come out in years. I'm not saying take a RB at #11 but between rounds 2-3, possibly 4 at the absolute latest, if Gordon, Gurley, or Coleman are there, I think they are must picks. I think at 11 we should go either Cooper, Parker or Trae Waynes (CB from Mich St.).

If you look at legitimate starting RBs these days, most RBs are anywhere between 1st and 3rd round picks. It's not like stud backs come by the groves between rounds 4-7. You have guys like Foster and Morris that are pretty much cinderella stories but that doesn't happen very often, if at all. Having a good, RELIABLE RB goes a long way, especially when you have a young QB like Teddy. Having a good RB behind Teddy is just as important as giving him good WRs and a good OL IMO. What if Teddy was to go down due to injury and we then have to rely on the "McKinnon/Asiata" tandem with a backup QB in there. At least teams like Dallas, Pitt, Philly, Seattle, etc. have a running game to rely on if their QB goes down. Look how disgustingly gross Arizona's offense is with backup QBs and below average RBs running the show. It's hard to even watch. A good RB will help Teddy tremendously (I don't want to hear the "well it didn't help Ponder" bologna because nothing could help Ponder. He was just that bad.) Look how much better Tony Romo looks this year with Murray running the rock.

Bottom line is, I don't want to see this team go from a good RB and no QB to doing a complete reversal and have a good QB and no RB. If we are going to let AP go, DO IT THIS YEAR!! It gives us a lot more cap room and possibly more draft picks (which gives us better chances to land 1 of the big 3 RBs as well as other positions). As of right now, Gordon is really the only one I can see going in the 1st. I have no clue with Gurley due to his knee injury (my guess is 2nd-3rd), and Coleman should be anywhere between the 2nd and 3rd. If it wasn't for Gurley's injury, he would be in the first as well.

Look how consistent SD's offense was for so long when they had Rivers and LT. I think Turner realizes how valuable it is having a good QB AND a good RB. We didnt have that consistency this year. I sure hope he slams his fist down on the table this year for one of those big 3. It worked for Teddy!!

[Pondering Her Percy]

The thinking is that a game changing RB may be the best way to improve our overall offense. The question I've often had is how much difference is there between a RB taken in the first round and one taken in say rd. 4-5?

This year, yes, there is a huge difference.

I don't think we have any shot at Cooper sitting at 11.

I definitely wouldnt rule it out. He should be there when Oakland picks and that idiotic franchise is known to pass on talent. After that, most of the teams that pick are WR loaded (Was, Chi, Atl, NYG). The only other teams I can see taking him before us are the Jets (however, they need to do something with their QB and defensive backfield) and the Rams. The Rams pick just before us. I think it's definitely possible for Cooper to fall to us.

[PurpleKoolaid]

To get Cooper, Im positive Rick would have to work out a deal. Maybe even to get Parker. I would be ecstatic to get Teddy and Parker reunited.

[Pondering Her Percy]

I highly, highly doubt Parker would be gone before the 11th pick. It's possible Cooper slides due to other teams needs. No way Parker would be gone too

[saint33]

Do you really honest to god think Jerry Jones would give up a 1st round pick when he has arguably one of the best RB's in the league on his roster... come on the guys not an idiot.

At the moment he does... But there is a very real possibility that he will not have Murray on his roster come next year. Murray and Dez are both free agents, the Cowboys are recovering from their disastrous cap situation, but still don't have a ton of wiggle room. They've already stated that resigning Bryant is their #1 priority ahead of Murray and if a deal is not worked out before the deadline for the franchise tag to be used, they will use it on Bryant before they would on Murray.

Not to mention, with the oline they've built in Dallas, I'm sure they view Murray as less of a loss to the team. The thinking is that they could get a number of different options to run behind that oline and still be as successful.

[saint33]

I highly, highly doubt Parker would be gone before the 11th pick. It's possible Cooper slides due to other teams needs. No way Parker would be gone too

Idk about that, it's still very early to even tell at this point, draft boards are guaranteed to be different from now until the draft. Not to mention we still have free agency and off season cuts between now and the draft so it's not even that easy to predict who may target a WR.

At this point, I see two teams ahead of us that are strong candidates to potentially take a WR, Oakland and St. Louis. And depending on how the board works out, say for example if Cooper is considered a top 3 prospect come draft time, I could see Tennessee in that mix as well. And then there could be some movement with teams like Chicago, Washington or New York. I don't expect Marshall, DeSean or Harvin to go anywhere at this point, but then again I could see a reason for each of these teams to move on from them and none of those moves would surprise me.

And of course depending on how the draft boards line up, there's always the potential for a trade up ahead of us, especially if Parker were to be considered a top 5-10 prospect, we've seen teams willing to move up in the first round for WRs pretty consistently in the recent past (Atl for Julio, Jax for Blackmon, StL for Austin, us for Patterson and most recently Buffalo for Watkins).

Basically what I'm saying is that it's only January. Assuming we know anything definitive about the draft today is going to be a tough sell. Remember last year at this time a lot of the discussion centered around trading up to draft Teddy or Manziel, or settling and "reaching" for Bortles. Not exactly how things panned out.

[mmvikes]

Do you really honest to god think Jerry Jones would give up a 1st round pick when he has arguably one of the best RB's in the league on his roster... come on the guys not an idiot.

“The facts are that I really do think the way things have rolled out that I’m getting to do some of my best work that I’ve done, relatively speaking in my career of these last several years.”

This is an absurd comment that Jerry made last season while his team was in the middle of their third straight 8-8 season.

“I’ve been around here when it was glory hole days and I’ve been here when it wasn’t. Having said that, I want me some glory hole.”

Jerry’s intention was to use a term from his oil and gas business days to get his point across. The problem is most people think of something totally different when they hear the term glory hole. Needless to say fans, media and late night TV host had a field day with this one.

“I’ve been told by CAT Scans that it’s like the brain of a 40-year-old. The guy really did not know it was me. I was there anonymously. And so I just wanted to come down. I saw your chart. I know how old you are. That part is really impressive”

This whole scenario is as confusing as Jerry’s words. The whole thing makes no sense, but that’s usually the case when it comes to Jerry.


Yup. He is a genius. He still thinks he won those Super Bowls orchestrated by Jimmy Johnson.

[Cliff]

Yup. He is a genius. He still thinks he won those Super Bowls orchestrated by Jimmy Johnson.

But, but ... aren't all rich people smart and hard working and earn everything they get!?

Nope; some people have wealthy parents that can make them a Vice President of a their company upon graduating college. This is a guy who started out with enough money to allow him to have several failed businesses before finally getting lucky drilling holes in the ground.

Is he an idiot? I don't know about that ... but it doesn't take a genius to do what he did, that's for sure.

[The Breeze]

Maybe his brain looks so young because he's hardly used it.

[DK Sweets]

Maybe his brain looks so young because he's hardly used it.