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Johnson can be a backup, he isn't much worse then Load, and is better then Kalil. And he can play tackle. He's cheap, one guy Rick hasn't overpaid. But yea, our Oline needs to be fixed.jackal wrote:I wouldn't mind if we TRADED OR dumped Kalil, Loadholt and Johnson
They all suck or are under performing for us right now !!!
Sorry but in no way is Johnson a better LT than Kalil. When Johnson was our LT, he was FAR AND AWAY one of the worst in the league if not THE worst. He is overly undersized, as slow footed as they come, and now 30 years old. For anyone to think Charlie Johnson should be our LT now or is a "better option" than Kalil is just laughable. Our o-line is definitely hurting right now but in no way, shape or form would that help. That's the biggest head-scratcher I've heard in a longgggg timePurpleKoolaid wrote: Johnson can be a backup, he isn't much worse then Load, and is better then Kalil. And he can play tackle. He's cheap, one guy Rick hasn't overpaid. But yea, our Oline needs to be fixed.
Yeah Johnson was as bad as they get. We have agreed on something!!Demi wrote:
Johnson was terrible at tackle. Worse than Loadholt or Kalil. At least Kalil and Loadholt have good moments. Johnson was just plain bad. Most of the time...completely out of place...
My point is, this year Johnson is doing better. Look it up.Demi wrote:
Johnson was terrible at tackle. Worse than Loadholt or Kalil. At least Kalil and Loadholt have good moments. Johnson was just plain bad. Most of the time...completely out of place...
No need for a center or RG. I still don't even mind Loadholt. He was of the best run blocking OTs in the NFL. The left side is what makes me nervousSuperfreak84 wrote:How about we draft 2 guards and 2 tackles. And a center
I would just love to see one promising game out of Kalil so I could know that he still has what he did his rookie season. He did do a pretty good job against St. Louis but outside of that its been roughfiestavike wrote:I'm anxious to see Harris get another game at Guard. It would be nice if he could be the answer at LG next season, and that might leave us with LT as the only desperate hole on the offensive line.
I wonder if part of the problem is that he is a 180 pound man in an offensive tackle's body. I know people were concerned about that before he was drafted. He's had trouble putting on weight and keeping on weight when trying to build strength. I think his struggles are a combination of his lack of strength and size and his psychological state at this point. I don't think he will ever be an elite OT.CbusVikesFan wrote:You have to wonder if there is some nagging injury that is hindering Kalil. If not, you then wonder if this guy takes pride in his play and is not just collecting a paycheck.
fiestavike wrote: I wonder if part of the problem is that he is a 180 pound man in an offensive tackle's body. I know people were concerned about that before he was drafted. He's had trouble putting on weight and keeping on weight when trying to build strength. I think his struggles are a combination of his lack of strength and size and his psychological state at this point. I don't think he will ever be an elite OT.
That is a good read. I have no doubt technique is a factor as well. Obviously all of these things are factors and so its just a matter of trying to identify which problems are primary. Of course its tough to do because they are all interrelated. Ansah obliterated Kalil's hands, as have several opponents this year, and I think in addition to technique he just lacks upper body strength compared with the guys he is going against. That in turn makes him more reliant on his technique to be successful, so any errors in that part of his game are amplified.Mothman wrote:
I think his problems are primarily technique-oriented, but maybe size and strength have something to do with it too. I also don't think the OL as a whole has completely grasped how to handle certain situations in the new offensive scheme.
This link 808Vikings fans posted in another thread actually has some good insight into how and why a few of the sacks Kalil has allowed this season occurred:
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football ... et/2203370