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How is it playing both sides? It was clear for quite some time he should have been traded, and wasn't, and people beat the drum he was untradeable, wasn't injury prone, some amazing weapon, etc.Boon wrote: You cant play both sides in one point dude lol
How can you not give credit to a GM for trading away a WR with injury issues, off the field issues and no 1000 yard receiving seasons who as you have said was forcing his way off the team for a 1st, 3rd and 7th round pick? Spielman deserves credit for getting enormous value in that situation, which is only emphasized by the fact that barely a year after the trade, the Seahawks got far less value for Harvin.Demi wrote: How is it playing both sides? It was clear for quite some time he should have been traded, and wasn't, and people beat the drum he was untradeable, wasn't injury prone, some amazing weapon, etc.
He finally forces a trade, and the GM is a genius for giving him it.
I suspect it means that all draft announcements from the podium should have always, and always in the future, should say "With the Xth pick, the Minnesota Vikings, after consulting Demi, because he is so much smarter than anyone else, pick ...."saint33 wrote: How can you not give credit to a GM for trading away a WR with injury issues, off the field issues and no 1000 yard receiving seasons who as you have said was forcing his way off the team for a 1st, 3rd and 7th round pick? Spielman deserves credit for getting enormous value in that situation, which is only emphasized by the fact that barely a year after the trade, the Seahawks got far less value for Harvin.
Because he didn't do it due to all the other issues, he hung onto him until he refused to stay with the team....how can you give someone credit for doing something when they had no other choice?How can you not give credit to a GM for trading away a WR with injury issues, off the field issues and no 1000 yard receiving seasons who as you have said was forcing his way off the team for a 1st, 3rd and 7th round pick?
He had a choice. He could have paid him what Percy thought he was worth, and then we would be #### now about how Rick made a bad move and paid him too much money.Demi wrote: Because he didn't do it due to all the other issues, he hung onto him until he refused to stay with the team....how can you give someone credit for doing something when they had no other choice?
Top NotchRaptorman wrote:Upon hearing the news of the trade, Percy developed a headache and is expected to miss the next 8 weeks.
Because he had a choice and because he negotiated a good deal, particularly under the circumstances.Demi wrote: Because he didn't do it due to all the other issues, he hung onto him until he refused to stay with the team....how can you give someone credit for doing something when they had no other choice?
Does anyone even remember what was going on at that point in time?The Vikings knew they couldn’t coexist with the highly talented, but at time high maintenance, Percy Harvin. They bought high (2009 first-round pick) and somehow sold even higher (2013 first-round pick, plus more), getting real value from a guy they so badly wanted to trade that G.M. Rick Spielman declared publicly and loudly that the Vikings had “no intent” to trade him.
What is tripping you up here? Yes, we remember what was happening at the time. That's why Spielman deserves kudos for getting so much in return for a disgruntled player who wanted out of Minnesota. As the quote above says, they bought high and sold higher. You don't see how that's a net positive for the organization, especially under those circumstances?Demi wrote: Does anyone even remember what was going on at that point in time?
There was no chance he wasn't traded, and instead of trading him at a time his stock was high, he waited until every team in the NFL knew he was available, and was disgruntled.
We turned him into Rhodes and McKinnon. Sneaky Pete and John Schneider gave him 20 million to play ten games and got a mid round pick back for him. I will be as damn smug as I want, thanks very much doc.chicagopurple wrote:We shouldn't be TOOO smug here in Viking -land, Its hard to argue that WE have a WR any better then Percy, even WITH all his warts.
