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Flash also has more receiving yards right now than guys like Larry Fitzgerald, Desean Jackson, and Percy Harvin. He also leads our team in yardage. I don't understand the criticism at this point.

I don't understand it either. After watching the film, Cordarrelle made plenty of adjustments. The Pick where CP was targeted was a terrible decision by Matt, who got baited on the throw. Cordarrelle was double covered many times in the game. CP had extremely limited touches due to all the turnovers, and punts

84BreaksAnkles wrote:I don't understand it either. After watching the film, Cordarrelle made plenty of adjustments. The Pick where CP was targeted was a terrible decision by Matt, who got baited on the throw. Cordarrelle was double covered many times in the game. CP had extremely limited touches due to all the turnovers, and punts

I'm with you. Of all the things to complain about regarding the last game, Patterson isn't one of them.

losperros wrote:
I'm with you. Of all the things to complain about regarding the last game, Patterson isn't one of them.

Especially considering the reports that the Patriots had a spy on him...the minute AD was gone teams could focus on our only other offensive weapon.....

Back to having only one can-score-any-time-he-touches-the-ball guy...

WHY AD! WHYYYYYY!!! TEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

84BreaksAnkles wrote:Back to having only one can-score-any-time-he-touches-the-ball guy...

WHY AD! WHYYYYYY!!! TEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

No kidding about one scoring threat at a time. Last time we had two really developed offensive playmakers, Percy goes and hurts himself.

PurpleKoolaid wrote:CP isn't good at adjusting his routes. He isn't good at separation. Doesn't have the soft hands. I hope our WR coach is able to teach him, because we are bad at WR, terrible in fact, until Simpson comes back. My question is, how long does it generally take for a raw WR to learn in the NFL? And is our WR coach any good? Because Theilan is looking better then wright at this time. Simpson always has been. Jennings is a #2, at the very best, on any other team.

is it me or did you just say our WRs are terrible until Jerome Simpson comes back???

If you remember, Simpson had plenty of chances to prove he could be our #1 WR and never even came close. Struggled with drops often and was very ineffective at times. Not sure why you like him so much. i mean he's had 1 TD in TWO years as a starting X wide receiver. That's almost as bad as Chris Cook not recording an INT in 4 years as a Viking.

I like him as a number 3-4 WR but he is nowhere near our best WR. Jennings is one of the most sure-handed and consistent route runners you could find. Simpson isn't quite sure handed and his route running is a toss up. There is a difference here as well....Simpson is at his ceiling, Patterson still has plenty to go until he hits his ceiling.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: is it me or did you just say our WRs are terrible until Jerome Simpson comes back???

If you remember, Simpson had plenty of chances to prove he could be our #1 WR and never even came close. Struggled with drops often and was very ineffective at times. Not sure why you like him so much. i mean he's had 1 TD in TWO years as a starting X wide receiver. That's almost as bad as Chris Cook not recording an INT in 4 years as a Viking.

I like him as a number 3-4 WR but he is nowhere near our best WR. Jennings is one of the most sure-handed and consistent route runners you could find. Simpson isn't quite sure handed and his route running is a toss up. There is a difference here as well....Simpson is at his ceiling, Patterson still has plenty to go until he hits his ceiling.

I agree, although I may be a bit higher on Simpson than you are. If Simpson is your #1 WR, your corps is not looking so hot, but if he's a 3 or even 4 you know your receivers are at least decent and somewhat deep.

I like the speed and energy he brings, and although I don't like to admit it, his stupid first down celebrations are growing on me.

With Adrian out indefinitely, I wouldn't mind seeing us use Flash as our halfback, even just for 25-35% of the snaps. We have lined him (and Percy, once upon a time) up in the I-Formation, and had success with it in the past.

frosted21 wrote:With Adrian out indefinitely, I wouldn't mind seeing us use Flash as our halfback, even just for 25-35% of the snaps. We have lined him (and Percy, once upon a time) up in the I-Formation, and had success with it in the past.

I would love this as well, but from what I understand CP isn't strong in the way a traditional HB needs to be.

It may be painfully obvious that whenever they line him up in the backfield the play is not going to go up the middle. If Norv avoided using him out of the backfield as much because without Peterson he had no big threat up the middle, I'm not sure how much he'll use Patterson as a regular HB given the lack of the threat up the middle now. (Then again Belichick is definitely a great defensive coach)


I think/hope I'm just being extremely negative right now because of all these negative circumstances, I hope I'm completely wrong here, and I may well be.
I'm a HUGE fan of CP and what he can already do; I guess I'm just not sure how Norv will want to use him. He did get 8 targets last game; they just weren't great throws by Cassel most of the time.

juventus1 wrote:
I would love this as well, but from what I understand CP isn't strong in the way a traditional HB needs to be.

It may be painfully obvious that whenever they line him up in the backfield the play is not going to go up the middle. If Norv avoided using him out of the backfield as much because without Peterson he had no big threat up the middle, I'm not sure how much he'll use Patterson as a regular HB given the lack of the threat up the middle now. (Then again Belichick is definitely a great defensive coach)


I think/hope I'm just being extremely negative right now because of all these negative circumstances, I hope I'm completely wrong here, and I may well be.
I'm a HUGE fan of CP and what he can already do; I guess I'm just not sure how Norv will want to use him. He did get 8 targets last game; they just weren't great throws by Cassel most of the time.

That's a good point.

love having this board back! this place is great. of ALL of the things that suck for the vikes right now...of all the crap both on and off the field...of all the weaknesses we have... we focus on our second year receiver...our mot dynamic player, a guy who averages nearly 12 yards a catch despite being thrown to by cassel in between interceptions, because in all his experience he doesn't run the crispest routes or adjust to the ball in a manner some fans would like. whoa.

Patterson is a play maker pure and simple. He might still be learning the ins and outs of WR, but he has talent and charisma bursting out of every seam. Get him the ball in one way of another 10 times a game, and you have a good chance of winning.

I do recall the three-year mark for WRs, and for Patterson it may be a steeper learning curve due to his relative inexperience. Having Jennings on the team helping coach him should be useful. Of course, having better protection and quarterback play also goes a long way. Look at it this way: Patterson is already pretty darn good and there's probably still capacity for improvement. I'm hoping things really click next season with another season/offseason to improve and if/when Bridgewater starts.

dead_poet wrote:I do recall the three-year mark for WRs, and for Patterson it may be a steeper learning curve due to his relative inexperience. Having Jennings on the team helping coach him should be useful. Of course, having better protection and quarterback play also goes a long way. Look at it this way: Patterson is already pretty darn good and there's probably still capacity for improvement. I'm hoping things really click next season with another season/offseason to improve and if/when Bridgewater starts.

I see it the same way. What's more, I'm hoping that Bridgewater-to-Patterson becomes a Vikings trademark like Culppepper-to-Moss (or Carter) did.