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Delaqure wrote:I am one of the few who like Robison. I don't really get the dislike for him. He always seem to be in the thick of things, he bats down a lot of balls and while he isn't a sack monster he creates a lot of hurries. He seems a very solid player and is not caught out of position often.

That being said it will be interesting to see what Crichten brings to the table.
I like Robisons play on the field as well. He had 9? Sacks last year, and top 10 in the league on QB hurries. Top 10 for passes batted down. (I don't have all the stats in front of me right now, but if I remember right, he was up there) He hadn't gotten any DUIs, beat his girlfriend, he doesn't make stupid comments to the media about who the starting QB should be. There is a lot to like, and he isn't involved in most of the things that I get sick of seeing players do. He just isn't a big name player, doesn't get media attention, and has had Jared Allen and Kevin Williams' Shadows to park himself in for his career here. He isn't a guy who is going to take a game over and dominate the other team, but he is consistently pesky to the opposing offense. You need guys like him.
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he reminds me a little of Robert Mathis
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Delaqure wrote:I am one of the few who like Robison. I don't really get the dislike for him. He always seem to be in the thick of things, he bats down a lot of balls and while he isn't a sack monster he creates a lot of hurries. He seems a very solid player and is not caught out of position often.

That being said it will be interesting to see what Crichten brings to the table.
Robison has underrated athleticism. I don't think most people realize that he can jump 40 inches and runs the 40 in 4.6, but he's quite the physical specimen aside from just being relentless. I think the contract we signed him to could turn out to be quite the bargain with the way he's been producing the last few years. I saw it during his rookie season, too. We only used him sparingly, but whenever he had opportunities he was one of our better pass rushers.
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Yeah I agree on B-Rob. They guy is always in the middle of things. Can anyone recall the last time he totally blew a play? I can't. The one things he needs to get better at is finishing the sack, but honestly, that is nitpicking.

I think our DL will be a highlight this year. We also added that Wooten (sp?) guy from Chicago. We should have a lot of fresh legs throughout 4 quarters with a talent level that is overall improved.
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80 PurplePride 84 wrote:Robison is the Loadholt of Defense. He's disliked, when there's no real reason to dislike him.

Maybe we should go back to the days of Darrion Scott and Marcus Johnson.
I'm not sure why fans don't like him?? I have always been a fan of Robisons. He is one of the most conistent players on defense. He's not going to light the world of fire sack wise but he gets the job done no doubt. Crichton is definitely Robisons replacement on a few years. Everson Griffen 2.0
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Pondering Her Percy wrote:I'm not sure why fans don't like him?? I have always been a fan of Robisons. He is one of the most conistent players on defense. He's not going to light the world of fire sack wise but he gets the job done no doubt. Crichton is definitely Robisons replacement on a few years. Everson Griffen 2.0
I wasn't even aware that fans didn't like Robison (other than fans who don't seem to like anybody). What's not to like? He works hard and he's one of the more effective pass rushers in the league from the LDE position. He's not a great run defender but he's not bad in that capacity.
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Mothman wrote: I wasn't even aware that fans didn't like Robison (other than fans who don't seem to like anybody). What's not to like? He works hard and he's one of the more effective pass rushers in the league from the LDE position. He's not a great run defender but he's not bad in that capacity.
Yeah I agree. I honestly haven't heard of any Viking fan not liking Robison until this thread. The fact that he's being compared to being the Loadholt of the defense doesn't make much sense to me.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Yeah I agree. I honestly haven't heard of any Viking fan not liking Robison until this thread. The fact that he's being compared to being the Loadholt of the defense doesn't make much sense to me.
Those are the fans who don't like anybody. Loadholt is a top 10-15 OT. Robison has been a top 10-15 edge rusher for a couple of years now as well.
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Slick Rick wrote: Those are the fans who don't like anybody. Loadholt is a top 10-15 OT. Robison has been a top 10-15 edge rusher for a couple of years now as well.
Exactly. Loadholt might have slow footwork but by all means, he is still a very solid RT. Just like Robison is a very solid DE. No other way around it.
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The only thing I 'dislike' about Robison is situational and it is due to the fact that we gave him the contract extension over Jared Allen last year. Oh well, water under the bridge. Robison is more than solid as a starter in the NFL.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:The only thing I 'dislike' about Robison is situational and it is due to the fact that we gave him the contract extension over Jared Allen last year. Oh well, water under the bridge. Robison is more than solid as a starter in the NFL.
Why would we give Allen a contract though?? He was clearly going to be overpaid, Robison is a year younger, and I feel that Robison is more of a consistent player. I would have taken Robison over Allen any day this past offseason. Especially because of the financial aspect.
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I appreciate everything Allen did with the Vikings in his prime but it was time to move on. Signing him during the season and then bringing in Zimmer wouldn't end well. Zimmer's 'stop the run first and rush the passer second' approach wouldn't work with Allen. He has done the opposite for his entire career. Allen also hates coming off the field and Zimmer loves to rotate guys in and out.
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What I find funny is that no one has talked about Everson Griffen. I understand that he got signed to a new contract extension but whose to say that Scott Crichton is not competing for Griffen's spot either? Griffen is a good player but only time will tell if he really is a solid replacement for Jared Allen.

The situation is interesting though. I'm not saying that Griffen won't be a solid D-linemen but I don't think he's excluded in more than Robison is. I think Griffen got resigned because it's the safer choice. Less money than you would've paid and younger guy would a lot of upside. But he is not yet proven, as a NFL starter. I remember when Griffen first came they didn't know if they wanted him as DE or if they wanted to drop him back as a LB.

Crichon seems like a true DE and I think he is capable of taking anyone one of those DE spots when he becomes developed enough.
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King James wrote:What I find funny is that no one has talked about Everson Griffen. I understand that he got signed to a new contract extension but whose to say that Scott Crichton is not competing for Griffen's spot either? Griffen is a good player but only time will tell if he really is a solid replacement for Jared Allen.

The situation is interesting though. I'm not saying that Griffen won't be a solid D-linemen but I don't think he's excluded in more than Robison is. I think Griffen got resigned because it's the safer choice. Less money than you would've paid and younger guy would a lot of upside. But he is not yet proven, as a NFL starter. I remember when Griffen first came they didn't know if they wanted him as DE or if they wanted to drop him back as a LB.

Crichon seems like a true DE and I think he is capable of taking anyone one of those DE spots when he becomes developed enough.
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Purple bruise wrote: Griffen will be/is the best defensive player on the team sans a healthy Harrison Smith. Do not sell this guy short, he is the real deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2IynSifboY
He certainly has the talent and potential to be and I don't see any reason he won't be awesome. I'm sure Zimmer watched 10 minutes worth of film and told Spielman we should re-sign him. If Floyd can play close to Kevin Williams level I think this D-line will be better than the 2009 line. That line was great but Ray Edwards was the weak link. How he didn't make more out of playing next to Allen, Williams, and Williams is just kind of puzzling.
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