If teddy is there at #8 do you take him now?

[Funkytown]

Walter's latest draft has him falling to pick 65...

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_3.php

Wow. Just a few months back, we were supposed to be "losing games" to even have a shot at this guy...and now this? People are full of crap, either back then or now...but some people are foolish. Hopefully it isn't the Vikes. But, really, this whole Teddy tumble is ridiculous, especially considering the rise of some other guys. Too weird! Can't wait for the draft to settle it!

[oldskoolvikingfan]

Wow. Just a few months back, we were supposed to be "losing games" to even have a shot at this guy...and now this? People are full of crap, either back then or now...but some people are foolish. Hopefully it isn't the Vikes. But, really, this whole Teddy tumble is ridiculous, especially considering the rise of some other guys. Too weird! Can't wait for the draft to settle it!

Yea I saw this mock draft and I was completely stunned. I agree with you that it is weird that Teddy is "tumbling" and guys like Manziel, McCarron, and Savage are rising? Like I said in an earlier post, I think it has to do with Draft Analyst and sports networks trying to attract viewers (and its working). Also some people have Mike Evans going at #4 to the Browns!!! When a couple of months ago he would barely crack the top 15-20.

[Mothman]

This quote below was in a Star Tribune article this morning about the active role Zimmer is taking in scouting this draft:

Zimmer has left scouting the technical aspects of the position to Norv Turner, the noted quarterback guru who will have a say in which passer Spielman picks. Zimmer instead focused on character and the unquantifiable traits that can make or break quarterbacks. He watched how they interacted with teammates and total strangers, tried to identify leadership qualities and looked them in the eyes in interviews.

“What you’ve got to figure out is, who is the best guy for the Minnesota Vikings?” Zimmer said. “Who’s going to fit in best with Norv? Who’s going to play well in the cold? With the team the way it is, how do they fit in with the defense? Is he better off sitting for a year or playing now? What’s his potential down the road going to be like? And they’re all good kids, and we talked to all of them. They have different personalities so there is a different flavor a little bit.”

Presumably, they've discussed the QBs available and answered those questions for themselves so should they take Bridgewater at #8? If they feel he is the best fit, they should absolutely take him. Ditto for Bortles, JFB or even Carr. They should trust their evaluation and get the quarterback they believe is the right man for the job. If it works out, that player will be well worth the eighth pick in the draft. If they draft a QB and it doesn't work out, that player probably wasn't going to be worth a trade back into the first or the price of a second round pick either.

[Hunter Morrow]

I think trading down and getting Bortles is the ideal QB situation.

I don't know. I just am not "feeling" Bridgewater. I know, I know.
Highly scientific and ruthlessly rigorous player evaluation, right?



But it doesn't seem like anybody else is "feeling" it, either.

[soflavike]

I think trading down and getting Bortles is the ideal QB situation.

I don't know. I just am not "feeling" Bridgewater. I know, I know.
Highly scientific and ruthlessly rigorous player evaluation, right?



But it doesn't seem like anybody else is "feeling" it, either.

I agree... Bridgewater does not convince me, either. I like Bortles... a lot. Bortles is really composed, has a pretty decent arm and isn't afraid to throw in traffic. He can even run when needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4iDpPeoaKI

[indianation65]

Oh how the winds change, especially on keyboards. I have some great guitars that I've had for years and years, and I did not know they sucked until I got a computer, got in some guitar forums, and other players told me they sucked! Nobody knows how a player will do/be until well into any season. I'd take any of the top quarterback draft choices, because any one of them could be great, but we don't know yet.

...wisdom

[dkoby]

I voted no. I think the questions on all these guys are too big to be picked at 8. If any of them are still around at near the end of the 1st round, I wouldn't feel too bad about Ricky moving back up into the round to snag whichever one he likes.
Personally I think that if Clowney, Mack, and Watkins are gone, They move back and pick BPA and acquire more picks. Or, if Bridgewater is still available at say15 or so, they could move back, get him and still acquire the picks they want.
I find it highly likely that they trade back this year,

[HardcoreVikesFan]

I voted yes - conditionally. I am going to assume that Khalil Mack, Mike Evans, and Sammy Watkins will be off the board when we pick. If either of those guys are on the board when we select, then we have to take one of them.

[nightowl]

I voted No. Not because I don't like him. I do. I like him from the games and from an appearance on NFL total Access where he explained his pre snap thought process and actions. This guy has a High Football IQ, and I wouldn't be upset if they take him at 8. My vote is based on the landscape, I think they can get him later and still use #8 to get another player.

The Vikes and Titans at 11 are the last teams that have a dire QB need before pick 20 Cardinals and 26 where Cleveland picks again. If they pass on a QB at 8 it could force the Remaining QB's to Fall into the late first where the Vikes could trade back in to get him or another QB if they like. Also I don't believe Arizona or Cleveland are into Bridgewater.

[oldskoolvikingfan]

I agree... Bridgewater does not convince me, either. I like Bortles... a lot. Bortles is really composed, has a pretty decent arm and isn't afraid to throw in traffic. He can even run when needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHSYdNv2C4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4iDpPeoaKI

Im not convinced with Bortles. I mean the baylor game he threw that bad screen pass which could have been picked off, he threw the deep pass when his guy was covered and got picked off, then he threw a pass to his running back or Tight end which was picked off, he also threw across his body and behind receivers. To be honest im not even sure why this guy is ranked so high.

[S197]

Oh how the winds change, especially on keyboards. I have some great guitars that I've had for years and years, and I did not know they sucked until I got a computer, got in some guitar forums, and other players told me they sucked! Nobody knows how a player will do/be until well into any season. I'd take any of the top quarterback draft choices, because any one of them could be great, but we don't know yet.

...wisdom

I'll take a few of those pieces of junk off your hands.

[Mothman]

I voted No. Not because I don't like him. I do. I like him from the games and from an appearance on NFL total Access where he explained his pre snap thought process and actions. This guy has a High Football IQ, and I wouldn't be upset if they take him at 8. My vote is based on the landscape, I think they can get him later and still use #8 to get another player.

The Vikes and Titans at 11 are the last teams that have a dire QB need before pick 20 Cardinals and 26 where Cleveland picks again. If they pass on a QB at 8 it could force the Remaining QB's to Fall into the late first where the Vikes could trade back in to get him or another QB if they like. Also I don't believe Arizona or Cleveland are into Bridgewater.

If they think he's worth a first round pick, why wait unless there's a player available at #8 who is so good they can't bear to pass him up? The idea of trading up is fine but it requires a partner, has a cost and there's no guarantee that some other team won't trade up to grab Bridgewater before the Vikes can do likewise.

I understand that everyone wants to maximize value in the draft and that's a good goal but for many years now, we Vikings fans have been focused on the team's need to settle their QB position with a good, young franchise quarterback. If they think there's a player in this draft (Bridgewater or someone else) who fits that description, I say don't screw around. Go get that quarterback. Don't try to get him at the ideal spot, just select him and move forward.

[Mothman]

Walter's latest draft has him falling to pick 65...

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_3.php

Meanwhile, draft "guru" Dane Brugler has Bridgewater as the top player in the draft:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nfl-d ... --nfl.html

My draft board isn't a mock draft or a list prospects based on how I think they will come off the board beginning Thursday. My final board ranks the top 100 players available in this draft based on my scouting over the past year. Some names in my top 100 might surprise, but for better or worse, the eye in the sky doesn't lie.

Final Top 100 Draft Board:
1. Teddy Bridgewater QB, Louisville (6-2, 214, 4.67, JR): While many have soured on him (or never had him highly rated in the first place), Bridgewater is still my top prospect in this draft because of what he brings to the table with his arm talent, efficient mobility and ability above the neck to play the position at a high level.

[Purple bruise]

Meanwhile, draft "guru" Dane Brugler has Bridgewater as the top player in the draft:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2014-nfl-d ... --nfl.html

Sounds like Bridgewater's agent. # 1 ranked player

[MatteoSpace]

I see take a qb (after two qb in top 7) as a sop (Obviously if it wasn't the first target)
If i was gm i'd take a Best D. Player Aviable, but i believe in Spielman, Zimmer and Turner and i accept anyone.

Walter's latest draft has him falling to pick 65...

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_3.php

Walter it's crazy