Knoxx wrote:
This is why we lost the game. Our defense was a joke it amazes me we got as far as we did.
Yeah, the defense was awful (weren't the Vikes down 14 points before the offense ever took the field?) and Green and his staff were severely out-coached in that game.
The Vikings played like a Champion Calibre team until Cris Carter got his 1,000th catch. After that, it was like they didnt care. Even the rest of the game he did it they almost blew it.
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VikingLord wrote:I don't know if the Giants cheated, but it was amazing how they seemed ready for everything the Vikings tried on both sides of the ball all game. It often seemed like the Giants had an extra player on the field. I kept thinking that they were overplaying their hand and Green and his coaching staff would find ways to exploit that, but no matter what the Vikings did the Giants were always right there to stop it, and defensively the Vikings always seemed a step behind.
When I watched the Championship game between the Vikes and the Saints the announcers wondered out loud if the Saints were intentionally going after Favre. Something just wasn't right with the way that game played out in terms of hits on Favre, and it later came out that indeed the Saints were targeting him. I wonder if the Giants in the 2001 NFCCG just have managed to keep things under wraps a bit better. I personally think think the Giants had access to the Vikings signals the whole game, which in turn allowed them to completely shut down a powerful offense while simultaneously doing what they wanted offensively. There is no way the 2001 Giants were good enough to completely outclass the 2001 Vikings like that without a little extra help. We might not know the truth until we get a "death bed confession" from someone involved, but I expect that to come some day.
Actually, you're not alone in thinking this, Edward. I read an interesting article years ago where someone made a case for the Giants somehow having access to all the Vikings offensive (and maybe even defensive) playcalling. Now I'm not saying that it's true but years later even Robert Griffith said he was convinced that something "eerie" was going on with the Giants, because they knew beforehand everything the Vikings were about to do.
I can't find the exact article now but I'm sure it's somewhere online. It gave examples of particular plays and how the Giants D would not normally play exactly as they did on each play, yet somehow they almost psychically had players in the right spots at precisely the right time. BTW, the Giants went on to get their butts kicked by the Ravens 34-7 and did not show the same precision in that game as they did against the Vikings. Of course, one has to remember that the Ravens were probably a better team than the Vikings, too.
PurpleKoolaid wrote:And yet its always Childress mentioned as such a tard, when in fact Denny was a bigger one. At least imho. He caused more grief to this team then Childress even. Childress's ego just got completely out of control.
dennis green got outcoached. the saints were the more physical team in 2009. Vikings were over confident and outcoached in 1998. I was too young when the Vikings lost those 4 super bowls. I know the Vikings had the better teams in 1 or 2 of the superbowls, at least the better defense not sure what happened. I need to do some research.
I felt the Vikings should have blown the Giants away. Only reason why the Giants were favored in that game was because they were at home (-2.5 spread).
After the '98 debacle I was so excited for this game. So much so that I remember wanting to record the game so I would have on cassette, the first time in my lifetime when they went to the SB. I vividly remember being extremely dejected when I ejected the video tape at halftime when it was 34-0. I told myself it was the last time I would convince myself the Vikings were easily the better team since this was the 2nd time my heart was broken.
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I remember it was 14-0 before the offense took the field. The Vikes kicked off and the Giants marched down the field and scored. They did some short kickoff that the Vikes couldn't handle and the Giants recovered. Again, they marched down the field and scored. The Vikings made Collins look like a HOF QB.
It's got to be one of the worst Championship game blow outs in league history.
losperros wrote:Actually, you're not alone in thinking this, Edward. I read an interesting article years ago where someone made a case for the Giants somehow having access to all the Vikings offensive (and maybe even defensive) playcalling. Now I'm not saying that it's true but years later even Robert Griffith said he was convinced that something "eerie" was going on with the Giants, because they knew beforehand everything the Vikings were about to do.
I can't find the exact article now but I'm sure it's somewhere online. It gave examples of particular plays and how the Giants D would not normally play exactly as they did on each play, yet somehow they almost psychically had players in the right spots at precisely the right time. BTW, the Giants went on to get their butts kicked by the Ravens 34-7 and did not show the same precision in that game as they did against the Vikings. Of course, one has to remember that the Ravens were probably a better team than the Vikings, too.
PurpleKoolaid wrote:And yet its always Childress mentioned as such a tard, when in fact Denny was a bigger one. At least imho. He caused more grief to this team then Childress even. Childress's ego just got completely out of control.
Bigger one? I don't know about that. Both had an ego issue. Both were poor coaches, but DG actually turned around an 8-8 team to an 11-5 team his first year as HC. Childress took 3 years just to get back to the record the team had before he came in the door. Green also consistently got the playoffs in all but two of his seasons (then promptly would lose his first playoff game, usually ) More frustrating? Yeah, maybe. Childress was a worse coach IMO, but this is sort of like arguing which rock is dumber than the other.
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Just Me wrote:
Bigger one? I don't know about that. Both had an ego issue. Both were poor coaches, but DG actually turned around an 8-8 team to an 11-5 team his first year as HC. Childress took 3 years just to get back to the record the team had before he came in the door. Green also consistently got the playoffs in all but two of his seasons (then promptly would lose his first playoff game, usually ) More frustrating? Yeah, maybe. Childress was a worse coach IMO, but this is sort of like arguing which rock is dumber than the other.
I think Green was a good-but-flawed who knew how to win in the regular season but obviously didn't have what it takes to be very successful in the postseason. His ego became a bigger issue over time and as he gained more power within the organization but I'd take him over Childress as the head coach 10 times out of 10...
... and I say that as a fan who wanted to see Green replaced years before that actually happened.
I think Denny tried to take his frustrations out, on not being able to take such a talented team to a SB, on the Vikings themselves. He wrote about on it, and even blamed racism. He seemed liked he has an ego and a vendetta, Childress just had an ego.
PurpleKoolaid wrote:I think Denny tried to take his frustrations out, on not being able to take such a talented team to a SB, on the Vikings themselves. He wrote about on it, and even blamed racism. He seemed liked he has an ego and a vendetta, Childress just had an ego.
In the end, Green was as bad for the Vikings as Childress. I just think he was a better coach and early on, he was good for the team.
) More frustrating? Yeah, maybe. Childress was a worse coach IMO, but this is sort of like arguing which rock is dumber than the other.
