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Adrianpeterson28mvp wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjxkQXlCAfE


Give me:
Coradelle Patterson #23
Tavon Austin #25
2nd: Teo or Brown
3rd: With so many DT's ( Lotulelei, Short, Williams, Richardson, Floyd, Hankins, Williams, Jenkins)...one might fall to the 3rd
4th and 5th: Matthieu and Lattimore?

I know this seems like a video game draft or a dream lol, however I have seen all these guys available to us in numerous mocks (means little, I know) but it goes to show we can beef up the WR's corp, surround Ponder with weapons, as well as still fill holes on defense.
Almost makes me wish we didn't re-sign Simpson to 2 mill and add that too our 4 mil in cap and still have Winfield

The Vikings dont have a fourth round pick. If they wanted the honey badger they would have to use a 3rd rounder on him.

JEC334 wrote: The Vikings dont have a fourth round pick. If they wanted the honey badger they would have to use a 3rd rounder on him.

You're right, the Vikings don't have A 4th round pick....... they have two 4 round picks

I am going to go out on a limb here. Everyone believes we are taking a wr in rd 1. This is driving the value of wr's up for what most would agree are typically 2nd or 3rd rd receivers. There are no studs. wr's go up, which drops really quality defensive players down the board. Spielman was very savy last year with his pre draft hype and rumors. I look for us to take two defensive players with the 23rd and 25th. Correct me if Im mistaken, but we made a pretty good playoff run last year after Percy got hurt and thus they may not see a wr as a must. As fans we would love to see the big receiver, Spielman just may have other thoughts. We shall see.

It's going to depend on the board. Speilman has already said he feels WR is deep in this draft. If the right player isn't on the board I don't expect a pick at WR to be forced. Not if they think they can get similar value in round 2.

I'm not sure I'd assume it'll be all defense though. I could see a guard getting picked if the right person falls as well.

I wouldn't say a must but id be quite happy if he falls to us at 23, but that's highly unlikely.

I've seen this one before.


He is good, really good, but I didn't see anything in that video that showed me he is going to be an amazing player. He looked like a man among boys especially with his straight line speed. That said however, a lot of those gaps he is exposing are simply not going to be there at the next level, and I didn't see enough of his lateral speed to get a good judge on that. If he is available when our pick comes fine, but trading up for him simply because he made a lot of players who would never make it in the NFL look slow isn't good enough for me.


Good skill set, worth picking up, just not selling the farm to do so.

Sutsgold wrote:I am going to go out on a limb here. Everyone believes we are taking a wr in rd 1. This is driving the value of wr's up for what most would agree are typically 2nd or 3rd rd receivers. There are no studs. wr's go up, which drops really quality defensive players down the board. Spielman was very savy last year with his pre draft hype and rumors. I look for us to take two defensive players with the 23rd and 25th. Correct me if Im mistaken, but we made a pretty good playoff run last year after Percy got hurt and thus they may not see a wr as a must. As fans we would love to see the big receiver, Spielman just may have other thoughts. We shall see.

I think so too. Unless one or two particular guys fall then I think the most value for those two first rounders are on the defensive side.

PacificNorseWest wrote: I think so too. Unless one or two particular guys fall then I think the most value for those two first rounders are on the defensive side.

I agree wholeheartedly with you both. The WR class is deep in #2 to #4 WRs, but I don't see a #1 guy.

While I'm certainly not opposed to the Vikings picking a WR in R1, I'm hoping they pick for defense with both R1 picks. There still will be good WRs available in R2.

losperros wrote:I agree wholeheartedly with you both. The WR class is deep in #2 to #4 WRs, but I don't see a #1 guy.

While I'm certainly not opposed to the Vikings picking a WR in R1, I'm hoping they pick for defense with both R1 picks. There still will be good WRs available in R2.

That would be fine with me. I think it all depends on who is available. They should remain flexible.

mondry wrote:On top of that, we already have 2 slot WR's in Wright and Jennings, yes both of them can play outside but why? Just so we can feel good about replacing Harvin with someone with a similar body type? It makes little sense, draft someone for the outside, someone who's either A. a deep threat, or B. big possession receiver, because guess what, that is what we've needed since Rice left. Jennings is a little bit of both I'd say, but in 2-3 years his replacement needs to be ready. I don't think Tavon Austin is the guy for the job, YMMV

I totally agree with you, Mondry. We already have two guys that can play the slot. Let's get a complimentary player through the draft, not another slot receiver.

Purple Rage wrote:I know by now most of u have done your homework on the draft, just wanted to pick your brain. In my opinion I think it's a must we draft Tavon Austin. He fits the exact mold of Percy Harvin, a very explosive playmaker that can be used in all aspects of the offense and special teams. RB, WR, KR, PR. As much as Percy has left a bad taste in our mouths he was a big part of our offense an is one of the most electric players in the game. Tavon can do the same things, the more I watch his film the more I think we have to draft him with one of our first two picks. I like Patterson, Keenan, Hunter but in my opinion Tavon is a better option. Take another look an lend me your thoughts. SKOL VIKES


Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/T3_UNFZHSQU

Here's how i see it. Ive bee studying WR film since december trying to figure out who should replace percy. It boils down to 3 players for me. Keenan Allen, Cordarrelle Patterson and Tavon Austin.

Here's what i know about each player

Allen: Converted safety, solid hands, good route runner, used with end arounds and hand offs. 6'2 206 lbs, big frame, Bum knee, no official 40 time. Slowest of the three for sure. Lacks elite straight-line speed. Is quicker and more agile than his size would indicate but does not possess the elite elusiveness to consistently make defenders miss in tight quarters. Natural big play threat who isn't afraid of contact and has very good vision and patience to set up blocks. Rarely allows passes to get past his hands and into his chest. Typically snatches passes out of the air, showing very good hand-eye coordination and a wide catching radius due to his length, flexibility and big hands. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder.

Patterson: Played 2 years at Hutchinson Community College; set every possible receiving record while there. Transfered to Tennessee for his junior year. Scored 10 total TDs 4 different ways(1 Kick, 1 Punt, 3 Run and 5 Catch). Patterson set an SEC single-season record with a combined kickoff and punt return average of 27.6 yards, and set a Tennessee record with 1,858 all-purpose yards. Incredibly hard to tackle in open space. One of the most elusive players ive seen. still developing as a route-runner and will tip his patterns at times. Patterson needs to scale back his physicality downfield, often extending his arms downfield against tight coverage and getting away with some push-offs. He has a bad habit of stopping his feet when running room isn't there, always searching for the home run instead of taking what's there.

Austin: Video game-like athleticism with rare change of direction skills. Lateral explosion is something special, doing an excellent job sticking his foot in the ground and bursting in any direction. Knows how to change gears and turn on the jets to blow by others on the field. Goes zero-to-60 in a flash and forces poor angles by defenders, following blocks and anticipating holes to set up his moves. Smallish frame and limited length with obvious durability concerns due to size. Will dance too much and get caught going east-west too much or in reverse, getting himself in trouble always looking for the home run. Smaller hands and will have some drops and double-catches, sometimes looking to create before securing the grab. Strong effort as a blocker, but obviously limited in this area and can be tossed by defenders when they get their hands on him

Allen is probably the most reliable receiver, however has the injury concern. Patterson is the bigger Home run threat with the greatest size to versatility ratio, not a precise route runner. Austin is the fastest but smallest, asking him to do what Percy did day in and day out would be suicide. Harvin has 2 inches and 20 pounds on Austin.

It is my firm belief that if the vikings are dead set on finding someone to replace harvin and do exactly what he did Cordarrelle Patterson is the man the Vikings need to target. He also has better size than Austin and Harvin so he can be used in jump ball situations and down field options as well.

^ Good job. Well done. I too agree that CP is the guy the Vikings should get, but he won't be there.

PacificNorseWest wrote:^ Good job. Well done. I too agree that CP is the guy the Vikings should get, but he won't be there.

With all this talk about Tavon Austin. I wouldnt be too surprised if the Rams took him to replace Amendola in the slot leaving us to take Patterson

Mothman wrote: That would be fine with me. I think it all depends on who is available. They should remain flexible.

Same here.

I really hate to be a downer but I really don't like any of these WR's, even the video of Patterson looked more to me like a RB with decent hands playing WR. Guy made like 10 cut backs on every play, and sure the speed / acceleration looks to be there but running side to side or even backwards usually isn't as effective in the NFL. If you want someone to replace Harvin though, like someone you could call the same exact plays for, he could do that probably...

I'm not convinced spielman is all that interested in this type of WR, definitely not worth trading up for imo.

dead_poet wrote: I, for one, would be surprised if he ends up as dynamic/lethal as Percy. I'm curious what you mean by being able to "blossom into even more complete player." Is there something Percy can't do on the football field (attitude notwithstanding)?

I think you just hit the nail on the head, for as completely of a player Percy is, his attitude related actions off the field equate to him not being worth the trouble.

Hopefully with all of the guidance offered for draftees, the current crop will be persuaded even more so to take the right path.

Harvin never fit in with our organisation as a person.