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Except when that idea is no way possible and healthy for the future of our team. And "Interesting. No problem overpaying for an injury prone TE, but for the love of god, dont pay a viable WR to help our happy feet QB. yeah, makes sense." sounds like hating to me.Lash Man wrote: Who said anything about hating the front office ? I just said id like to get Bowe because I see this season as being better than I expected and thought he could be a big help .
The draft is deep again with quality wide outs. Justin Hunter should be our first look, scary talented. I read one scout even comparing him to Randy Moss, I know very far stretched, but the guy has a lot of talent. The only FA Wideout we should be interested in is Jennings because I doubt he'll command a huge sum, favorable, but not huge. By the time hes done hopefully our first round WR is hitting huge strides and maybe *crosses fingers* we get back Childs.PurpleKoolaid wrote:At some point we HAVE to pay big money for a vet WR. Either through draft picks or cash, lotsa cash. I dont like Ponder, but we needs to see what he can do. I think alot on this board were wrong and Simpson wont help help. I dont think a rookie WR will either (unless we somehow get a Jones or Blackmon) because thats not how the Vikings do thing (afraid of the Hershal Walker deal). We need a REAL WR here and it isnt the end of the world if we give alot up and maybe have to fill some holes with less then steller players.
http://frogsfootballfantasy.com/prospec ... unter.htmlHunter’s size, track speed, and freakish athleticism have opened the door to Randy Moss comparisons. While these comparisons may be a little premature just 33 receptions into his college career, they aren’t exactly unfounded either.
Last years draft, people were saying the same thing and look we we got. As i said before a bust (based on one year) and a busted (one that experts say is hard for a WR to come back 100% from). Im tired of this nonsense of we cant get a vet. Look what winfield has done for this team. The draft is a crap shot. We need a freaking WR right NOW! We have for a few years.Arma wrote: The draft is deep again with quality wide outs. Justin Hunter should be our first look, scary talented. I read one scout even comparing him to Randy Moss, I know very far stretched, but the guy has a lot of talent. The only FA Wideout we should be interested in is Jennings because I doubt he'll command a huge sum, favorable, but not huge. By the time hes done hopefully our first round WR is hitting huge strides and maybe *crosses fingers* we get back Childs.
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PurpleKoolaid wrote: Last years draft, people were saying the same thing and look we we got. As i said before a bust (based on one year) and a busted (one that experts say is hard for a WR to come back 100% from). Im tired of this nonsense of we cant get a vet. Look what winfield has done for this team. The draft is a crap shot. We need a freaking WR right NOW! We have for a few years.
PurpleKoolaid wrote:My point was, we knew a MAJOR need last year was for a WR. Too a point where alot of people thought we might pick Blackmon over Kalil. We got Simpson, a PI specialist, and Carlson, the most overpaid TE in the history of the NFL, doing nothing for us. They havent helped Ponder at all. And our draft picks, that everyone says we HAVE to have to build this team around, will turn out to be busts, IMO. Childs might make it, but I doubt it. Spend the friggin money ona real WR. Not a #2 or 3, a #1. Make a deal, make it happen. Pretend we are like all the other teams in the NFL.
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The Vikings had multiple needs last year when the draft came around. The back end of their defense was terrible, Charlie Johnson was awful at Left Tackle, Hutchinson was past his prime, they let E.J. Henderson go in free agency so they didn't have an experienced MLB, there was a need for an upgrade at the DT spots because Kevin Williams did not play well last year and Remi Ayodele was terrible. Yes WR was a major need, but the Vikings had a lot of major needs. It's going to take more than one draft to fix the Vikings.
Who said anything about 8 months? Do you think Fraizer is as incompetent as Childress? We needed a WR as much as, if not more then, any other postion, and we struck out. And I think thats part of the problem with Ponder this year. So we should have tried to fix it. See if it works. If it did, it would fix multiple problems, and we resign to a multiple year contract. Other teams make things, basic things, work. I dont know if i trust Spielman and his FAs though.mondry wrote:Sadly we weren't going to fix every major hole in one offseason, if anyone thought that was possible it's a good idea to rehash your expectations. You would think after the randy moss situation we wouldn't have fans crying to rent a player for 8 games.
And next year will be the same...all the #1 will want the BIG #1 money. And had better pay it or this offense wil continue to stagnant(sp?). It would open everything up with a real ourside threat. Not one we develope, one that already knows the ropes.80 PurplePride 84 wrote:The Vikings were in on Pierre Garcon but weren't willing to give him that ridiculous contract he got. He's a #2 who got #1 money.
This year's FA WR class was weak outside of Vincent Jackson.
So we should pay two guys #1 money? Because that's what we're going to be paying Harvin after this year.PurpleKoolaid wrote:And next year will be the same...all the #1 will want the BIG #1 money. And had better pay it or this offense wil continue to stagnant(sp?). It would open everything up with a real ourside threat. Not one we develope, one that already knows the ropes.
Yes. Unless we want another year like this. Ponder needs some outside weapons. We will win maybe 7 this year, maybe 7 next. And people hope by that time, after wasting 3 years, we going t have drafted a number 1 WR. I just think Ponder has to have a Vet NOW or we will be looking for a QB and a WR. And the whole time AD adds years onto his body.glg wrote: So we should pay two guys #1 money? Because that's what we're going to be paying Harvin after this year.
I think most of us believe it's a good idea for the Vikings to add more talent at receiver. However, there are ways of going about it that will work with their plans and ways of doing so that just don't make much sense from a team-building/financial perspective.Lash Man wrote:Lets attack this problem from another angle since its obvious from the reactions on this topic that anyone wanting to get a better receiver is either stupid or unrealistic according to the vocal majority
I'd say Rice and Harvin both improved under his tutelage....how about we replace the Wide Receiver coach with one that can actually improve the play of who we already have ? I have not seen any examples of our wideouts improving under the tutelage of our Wide out coach in all the years he has been coaching.
I think that has more to do with all the mediocre-to-marginal WR talent the team has seen over the years.We seem to run sloppy routes that unless its PH never get YACS or separation.
