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Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:13 pm
by S197
soflavike wrote:I'm glad the Ponder experiment is coming to an end. Paying him close to $10 Million for a 5th year simply made zero sense. I wish him well, wherever he ends up and whenever the Vikes release him. Time to look forward and find our QB of the future. Cassell will do in the short-term.
I think it's too early to say it's coming to an end, he's still on the roster. I think it's more of a, "we'll see at the end of the season" type deal. I agree that picking up the option made no sense, I think it was a reporter just trying to make a story when there obviously wasn't one.
Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:28 pm
by Eli
S197 wrote:I think it's too early to say it's coming to an end, he's still on the roster. I think it's more of a, "we'll see at the end of the season" type deal. I agree that picking up the option made no sense, I think it was a reporter just trying to make a story when there obviously wasn't one.
There's always that possibility, but like you say, the option made no sense. If he's kept around for 2015 it will almost certainly be in a backup role, and you don't pay a backup QB $10M.
And he has to remain after two NFL drafts, which could be the real killer. If the Vikings draft a Mettenberger or a McCarron in the 3rd round, they will be drafting a QB again in 2015, almost guaranteed. Cassel will still be under contract in 2015. The chances of Ponder sticking with the Vikings just get slimmer and slimmer.
Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:29 pm
by S197
General manager Rick Spielman told reporters Tuesday that the team has no plans to shop the quarterback during this week's draft.
"We wouldn't trade Ponder," Spielman said. "... That would leave us one quarterback. I would not do that, we're gonna need two quarterbacks."
Spielman also told the room that bypassing Ponder's option was more about leaving "all our options going forward, especially financially going into next year."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... ring-draft
Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 6:43 pm
by Demi
Of course he wouldn't trade him, nobody would want him.

Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:35 pm
by Purple bruise
Come back player of the year

Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:57 am
by Mothman
Boon wrote:
I have a better chance of marrying shakira........
So you're saying there's a chance!

Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:23 am
by Webbfann
Boon wrote:
I have a better chance of marrying shakira........
The light switch
IS off in Ponder's head.

If it somehow turned on then what? He'd raise his game and become barely tolerable all the time instead of just some of the time?
Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:49 am
by Texas Vike
Boon wrote:
I have a better chance of marrying shakira........
Her hips don't lie, unlike Spielman's mouth.

Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:13 am
by Purple bruise
Webbfann wrote:
The light switch
IS off in Ponder's head.

If it somehow turned on then what? He'd raise his game and become barely tolerable all the time instead of just some of the time?
You are probably right. He is no Joe Webb

Here is Webb's stats by the way. 3tds./ 5 ints. and a 66.6 QBR.
2011 Minnesota Vikings 11 63 34 54.0 5.7 376 6.0 34.2 3 4.8 2 3.2 36 4 0 3 21 74.6
2010 Minnesota Vikings 5 89 54 60.7 17.8 477 5.4 95.4 0 0.0 3 3.4 46 4 1 8 48 60.9
TOTAL 33 152 88 57.9 4.6 853 5.6 25.8 3 2.0 5 3.3 46 8 1 11 69 66.6
Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:48 pm
by Webbfann
Purple bruise wrote:
You are probably right. He is no Joe Webb

Here is Webb's stats by the way. 3tds./ 5 ints. and a 66.6 QBR.
2011 Minnesota Vikings 11 63 34 54.0 5.7 376 6.0 34.2 3 4.8 2 3.2 36 4 0 3 21 74.6
2010 Minnesota Vikings 5 89 54 60.7 17.8 477 5.4 95.4 0 0.0 3 3.4 46 4 1 8 48 60.9
TOTAL 33 152 88 57.9 4.6 853 5.6 25.8 3 2.0 5 3.3 46 8 1 11 69 66.6
Whoa, not very good, even for a guy with only 5 NFL starts. He'll certainly never be a serviceable NFL QB with a start like that!
So whose first 7 game stats are these?
started Record completions att % --- TD INT Rate
7 --------- 1-6 -------- 95 ----197 48.2 --6 --9 55.4
Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:45 pm
by Purple bruise
Webbfann wrote:
Whoa, not very good, even for a guy with only 5 NFL starts. He'll certainly never be a serviceable NFL QB with a start like that!
So whose first 7 game stats are these?
started Record completions att % --- TD INT Rate
7 --------- 1-6 -------- 95 ----197 48.2 --6 --9 55.4
I am not sure but I bet it was someone like Joe Montana, Troy Aikman or Brett Favre and I am betting that you will make some comparison of Webb to them

Re: Decision on Ponder's option may not be easy
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:36 pm
by Webbfann
Purple bruise wrote:
I am not sure but I bet it was someone like Joe Montana, Troy Aikman or Brett Favre and I am betting that you will make some comparison of Webb to them

The only comparison between the two are those statistics, which prove only that you can't judge someone's NFL career on 7 starts, or 5 like you were doing.