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I also don't take anything seriously that the Eagle did after they started 3-1 and then sank. Nobody cared and it showed. Nnamdi with a coach like Frazier could be a good pairing considering he was a former DB.

I'd personally like a proven name at the DB position and don't mind if it's trading for Revis or snagging Nnamdi
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dead_poet wrote:From Pelissero's chat yesterday afternoon. He paints a grim (but realistic) picture about possible free agent signings.
http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Chat ... sday022513

If that was the case, why would anyone sign anywhere that isn't New England? Heck, Sidney Rice went to Seattle to play with an unknown QB after we offered him the same type of money. The Bengals signed an immense load of players last offseason with a second year QB. The Colts got a very good player in Cory Redding last offseason coming off the worst record in football. Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Bradon Meithwether, and Cedric Griffin signed with Washington before they made the trade with St. Louis. Harvey Dahl, Jason Brown, and Quintin Mikell signed with St. Louis. I have countless examples of signings where none of the guys 'broke the bank.'
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Dwayne Bowe - WR - Chiefs

The Kansas City Star says it's "likely" the Chiefs will retain free agent WR Dwayne Bowe.

Alex Smith's limitations would be accentuated if the Chiefs don't give him a receiver that can do special things after the catch. Their top-three wideouts under contract right now are Jon Baldwin, Terrance Copper and Dexter McCluster. The Star suggests that the Chiefs could use the franchise tag on Bowe for the second straight season, thus paying him over $11 million on a one-year deal.
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Chris Gamble - DB - Panthers

The Charlotte Observer's Joe Person says "all indications I've received are" that the Panthers will release CB Chris Gamble.

"They've kind of cut bait. I've not heard any talk about anything other than a straight cut," said Person. Gamble, 30 next Month, will not be offered a pay cut, and his current cap number sits at $10.95 million, third-highest on the team. He's likely to enter a deep free-agent corner market, so Gamble could be a bargain for some team.
Source: CBS Charlotte
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dead_poet wrote:Chris Gamble - DB - Panthers

The Charlotte Observer's Joe Person says "all indications I've received are" that the Panthers will release CB Chris Gamble.

"They've kind of cut bait. I've not heard any talk about anything other than a straight cut," said Person. Gamble, 30 next Month, will not be offered a pay cut, and his current cap number sits at $10.95 million, third-highest on the team. He's likely to enter a deep free-agent corner market, so Gamble could be a bargain for some team.
Source: CBS Charlotte
That'd be nice, I do think we could use a little corner help!
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I sure hope so. This is going to be a very deep free agent pool.
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This...would disappoint me. Greatly.

Rotoworld Free Agency Fits:
Now that the NFL Scouting Combine is over, the football world’s attention shifts to free agency, which opens in just 11 days. Teams can start negotiating with players on March 9.

These aren't necessarily predictions on where the following free agents will land, but rather suggestions based on need, price tag, and schematic fit. (I’ll willingly take credit if they land where I have them, though.) A vast majority aren’t high-profile names, and they likely won’t be signing in the first couple days of free agency. But they are at least solid depth players, and those guys can be nearly as important as the big-money fish discussed in Evan Silva’s Top 50 Free Agency Forecast.
Vikings: Wide receiver Brian Hartline – Minnesota badly needs someone on the outside to complement Percy Harvin in the slot. Jerome Simpson is a free agent, and Michael Jenkins will be released. Neither of the two was cutting it anyway. Hartline has a career 15.0 yards per catch average, and he’d fit the bill as a field-stretcher if the Vikings strike out on Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe, and Greg Jennings.
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I wonder if they'll spring big $$$ on a FA WR. The draft is deep at the position so from a cap standpoint that is the way to go. I still think their course of action will depend on PH. Of course, they also need help at OG, DT, and LB, 2 of which are also deep in the draft. Of those, DT is probably the position we'd get the most immediate impact from.

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dead_poet wrote:This...would disappoint me. Greatly.

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If Brian Hartline's talent is the ceiling in terms of guys who we will target in free agency, we would be suited to skip free agency all together and just draft players.
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I don't get it ... what's the problem with Hartline?

A player heading into his 5th year who had 74 catches and 1,083 yards last season seems to fit around the mold the Vikings would look for realistically in FA. Younger player ... shouldn't break the bank but seems like an obvious upgrade over many of our WRs.

He's not a "super athlete" or anything ... but he brings down catches on a seemingly reliable basis ... and that was with a rookie throwing him the ball.
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What about Daunta Robinson from ATL? He was released. I don't know much about him but I know he is decent.
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Cliff wrote:I don't get it ... what's the problem with Hartline?

A player heading into his 5th year who had 74 catches and 1,083 yards last season seems to fit around the mold the Vikings would look for realistically in FA. Younger player ... shouldn't break the bank but seems like an obvious upgrade over many of our WRs.

He's not a "super athlete" or anything ... but he brings down catches on a seemingly reliable basis ... and that was with a rookie throwing him the ball.
I was just about to post the same thing, he's for sure an upgrade to what we have, and not a bad player by any means. Considering he has ryan tannehil throwing to him, 1,083 yards receiving is decent. That's 16th best with more production than Eric Decker, steve johnson, mike williams, randall cobb, miles austin, anquon boldin, and MIKE WALLACE who'll get three times as much as him.

I'm not saying break the bank for Hartline but if Wallace gets some where around 60 million and heartline 20 million, i'd take heartline.

"The Miami Herald suggests free agent Brian Hartline would be willing to accept a three-year deal averaging $6 million annually, or "maybe less."" So yeah, could probably get him for around 20.
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mondry wrote:
I was just about to post the same thing, he's for sure an upgrade to what we have, and not a bad player by any means. Considering he has ryan tannehil throwing to him, 1,083 yards receiving is decent. That's 16th best with more production than Eric Decker, steve johnson, mike williams, randall cobb, miles austin, anquon boldin, and MIKE WALLACE who'll get three times as much as him.

I'm not saying break the bank for Hartline but if Wallace gets some where around 60 million and heartline 20 million, i'd take heartline.

"The Miami Herald suggests free agent Brian Hartline would be willing to accept a three-year deal averaging $6 million annually, or "maybe less."" So yeah, could probably get him for around 20.
I thought maybe he was injured and I didn't know it or something.

I know Harvin has a lot of raw ability and brings a lot to the team, but in terms of actual production, Hartline has either been pretty close to Harvin or better than him.

Can one of you guys who was anti-Hartline expand on it a little? I don't keep up with him in particular so I don't have a lot of info on him.
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mondry wrote: I was just about to post the same thing, he's for sure an upgrade to what we have, and not a bad player by any means. Considering he has ryan tannehil throwing to him, 1,083 yards receiving is decent. That's 16th best with more production than Eric Decker, steve johnson, mike williams, randall cobb, miles austin, anquon boldin, and MIKE WALLACE who'll get three times as much as him.

I'm not saying break the bank for Hartline but if Wallace gets some where around 60 million and heartline 20 million, i'd take heartline.

"The Miami Herald suggests free agent Brian Hartline would be willing to accept a three-year deal averaging $6 million annually, or "maybe less."" So yeah, could probably get him for around 20.
My problem is that he's a #2 receiver. Three 100-yard games last year and 1 (ONE) TD. Hartline lacks elite separation skills and physicality. He is a solid possession receiver who runs crisp routes and has reliable hands. I'd be happier if he was signed for less than $6 million/year and we drafted a high-upside flanker in the first three rounds. Easier to stomach that way as we hope Draft Pick would turn into that elite outside threat.

We need to stop using our current crop of receivers as a benchmark.
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dead_poet wrote: My problem is that he's a #2 receiver. Three 100-yard games last year and 1 (ONE) TD. Hartline lacks elite separation skills and physicality. He is a solid possession receiver who runs crisp routes and has reliable hands. I'd be happier if he was signed for less than $6 million/year and we drafted a high-upside flanker in the first three rounds. Easier to stomach that way as we hope Draft Pick would turn into that elite outside threat.

We need to stop using our current crop of receivers as a benchmark.
I think I see what you're saying. You're afraid the team would be bringing in Hartline as their "answer" at WR and possibly not pay as much attention to it in the draft?

I don't think so. It seems like the team's strategy is to get their "difference maker" players via drafting them and fill in the rest via free agency if necessary. Them bringing in Hartline wouldn't be a sign to me that the Vikings were done at WR for the off season ... but I agree if it was that would be disappointing.
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