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Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:50 pm
by Eli
Question: How much would a new stadium add to the resale value of the Vikings?

Could it possibly approach the $400M that the Wilfs have committed to the Anoka County site?

I think the simple fact is that Zygi _must_ recoup in real estate development every penny of the $400+ million dollars that he's pledged for the stadium. I'm not sure how you can blame him. He could move the team to L.A. and have a new stadium for the cost of the moving vans and new letterhead. I can't see merely adding a new stadium increasing the value of the franchise $400M. The Wilfs would potentially lose hundreds of millions of dollars by committing to a site where there are no other opportunities for income.

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:21 pm
by dead_poet
Eli wrote:Question: How much would a new stadium add to the resale value of the Vikings?

Could it possibly approach the $400M that the Wilfs have committed to the Anoka County site?

I think the simple fact is that Zygi _must_ recoup in real estate development every penny of the $400+ million dollars that he's pledged for the stadium. I'm not sure how you can blame him. He could move the team to L.A. and have a new stadium for the cost of the moving vans and new letterhead. I can't see merely adding a new stadium increasing the value of the franchise $400M. The Wilfs would potentially lose hundreds of millions of dollars by committing to a site where there are no other opportunities for income.
This doesn't answer your first question but Wilf is on record saying that any site other than Arden Hills wouldn't justify nearly the commitment he's pledging. In other words, if it's not Arden Hills, his contribution gets sliced. And I don't blame him.

Stadium thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:44 am
by CalVike
http://m.twincities.com/twincities/db_2 ... d=4DxWtPwt
Ramsey County officials are proposing two new taxes similar to those that already exist in Minneapolis and parts of the west metro. Legislative approval would be sought for a countywide 3 percent food and beverage tax, on top of a 3 percent hotel-motel lodging tax, excluding the county's suburbs, said Mehrkens, the county finance director.

The two new taxes would raise $25 million a year, bringing the county close to the $350 million local match that would have been generated by a half-percent countywide sales tax - previously abandoned under pressure from lawmakers.
This article is encouraging for Ramsay County coming up with $350MM. But some legislators are still skeptical. :wallbang

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:43 am
by purple guy
dead_poet wrote: Source: minnesota.cbslocal.com

That might be the final nail in the coffin for Wilf. If I was Wilf, Id take that as the state telling him they just arent interested, and Id proceed accordingly.

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:28 pm
by HardcoreVikesFan
CalVike wrote:http://m.twincities.com/twincities/db_2 ... d=4DxWtPwt
This article is encouraging for Ramsay County coming up with $350MM. But some legislators are still skeptical. :wallbang
You know, all this consistent squabbling everyday between these legislators just makes me really want to change my major and try to become a politician...

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:00 am
by thatguy
HardcoreVikesFan wrote: You know, all this consistent squabbling everyday between these legislators just makes me really want to change my major and try to become a politician...
And crack some skulls? Yeah me too.

Stadium thread

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:30 am
by CalVike
http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2011/12 ... adium_bids
Minneapolis is playing with a far different, far less costly, set of financial rules than Ramsey County in the big effort to build a new stadium for the Vikings.
But City Council was openly hostile to Rybak's plan on Thursday.

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:15 pm
by kingkyle222
these legislators suckkkkk.....ugh

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:23 pm
by HardcoreVikesFan
Sigh... Just build the damn thing in Minneapolis then, I really am starting to care less and less each day. This is like watching five years old fight over a toy. I just hope in the end that one of them end up throwing a tantrum and breaking the toy...

Stadium thread

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:52 pm
by CalVike
http://m.startribune.com/sports/?id=135418278&c=y
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell met briefly with reporters before Sunday's game at Ford Field, and reporters from the Twin Cities, of course, wanted to know how Goodell felt about the Vikings' ongoing stadium issues.

"I believe the leadership there wants to get it done," Goodell said. "We want to get it done. I know the Wilfs want to get it done. So we'll continue to work with the leadership there to make sure it gets done the right way. Not just for the NFL but for the community."

Stadium thread

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:06 am
by CalVike
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news ... h-vikings-
(Sunday Dayton) invited the key legislators dealing with the stadium issue to watch the Vikings at the Governor’s Residence in St. Paul.
There was no winning move by either side today as the site and funding are still being worked out. However, Some lawmakers say it appears gaming is the frontrunner when it comes to paying for a new stadium. Lawmakers are hoping to submit a bill with both the site and funding in early January but say they won’t do so until there is bipartisan support.

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:42 pm
by dead_poet
Wait...what?
Strong indications it gets done at Dome site RT @MisterMischief7: whats the latest on the stadium and do you think we will stay in Minnesota
Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 pm
by purple guy
dead_poet wrote:Wait...what?
Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Does anyone think Wilf used Arden Hills to give the cause a kick in the buttt?? Get Minneapolis involved and pay attention???

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:10 pm
by dead_poet
purple guy wrote:
Does anyone think Wilf used Arden Hills to give the cause a kick in the buttt?? Get Minneapolis involved and pay attention???
I don't. That's been the preferred site for a long time and he likely stands to make much more $$ from Arden Hills. He even publicly said that his contribution will drop if the site isn't Arden Hills. I understand there's politics and posturing involved in everything, but I'm convinced he selected Arden Hills because he feels it's the best solution (and they were willing to not only listen, but step up to the plate as partner).

Re: Stadium thread

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:24 pm
by Demi
Of course those idiots will build it in the worst possible location of the 4. gah.