Adrian Peterson Reinstated

[dead_poet]

Somewhere down the line, that process will cost the NFL.

Probably. Right now the pendulum of public opinion and the NFL is swinging the other direction from what it has previously been. Rather punish for something a NFL player "probably" did rather than no punishment for something they weren't convicted of. Not saying it's right, obviously. I can see this backfire but the NFL is sending a pretty clear message right now: "Don't f*ck up. If you do, expect punishment even if you're not found guilty. You shouldn't have put yourself in that position to begin with." I wonder if this will have any implications on teams drafting guys with questionable character concerns. Obviously the NFL will conduct its own investigations, though, before determining punishment.

[halfgiz]

How about AP to Jacksonville for Jacksonville's first round pick, #3 overall, plus Toby Gerhart, whom we acquire to complement McKinnon in the backfield. Wouldn't that be crazy?

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I still wouldn't count Dallas out. They won't go into next season with the backs they have now. And they pick 27th , So to get the back they want they have to trade up in the draft. Or just maybe deal for AP.
Just something to think about...

[Norv Zimmer]

PA on Rosen sports radio said there will be a definitive prediction on APs Status with the Vikings Today. Whatever that means...... hahah.

[Norv Zimmer]

PA on Rosen sports radio said there will be a definitive prediction on APs Status with the Vikings Today. Whatever that means...... hahah.

[Pseudo Everything]

PA on Rosen sports radio said there will be a definitive prediction on APs Status with the Vikings Today. Whatever that means...... hahah.

Sounds like he's teasing to improve ratings for Rosen's Sports Sunday TV show:

Paul Allen @PAOnTheMic
i'll be on @WCCORosen Sports Sunday tonight in 14 hours & will make an Adrian Peterson guarantee that will be accurate. See u then

Wonder if it will be anything more than just his best guess about what will happen.

[Demi]

Some half #### guarantee like the "if he's on the team after the first day of the draft, he'll stay" otherwise what blow back is there for these clowns when they're wrong? He could guarantee Adrian is going to be a Viking, he gets traded tomorrow to the Cowboys, and it's business as usual. If other people did their jobs as well as these media hacks, they'd be fired. But if you're in the media, you get rewarded for saying stupid #### out both sides of your mouth!

[MrPurplenGold]

... and it should. A guilty-until-proven innocent approach is the wrong approach.

I'm not sure how or why it should cost the NFL. Here's why I think it's the right approach.

Private organizations are not subject to due process. Due process is only established under applications involving state or federal entities. The only reason the players have "due process" now is because it was collectively bargained. Which is a double edged sword. The reason the players keep getting screwed on the due process side is because they choose more money during the collectively bargained process as opposed to more rights during disciplinary hearings.

Also, the criminal justice system is an extremely flawed system. Take the Ray Rice situation for example. He clearly assaulted a woman on video. He went through a pre-trial diversion program and from my understanding his record was expunged. Who is that justice for and how is that a deterrent from any future crimes. Also, there are many different evidentiary rules and technicalities that prevent certain evidence from even being presented during a criminal trial. Why should the NFL be subject to these same rules or why should they be deterred from disciplining their employees because the player had a good lawyer.

I think the Hardy case is a great example of why the NFL should impose it's own punishment, withstanding what the Criminal Justice system did. There was clear and convincing evidence that Hardy committed this particular crime. He was convicted by a judge but then exercised his right to a trial by jury. Now all of a sudden the victim won't testify. Now he won't have a conviction on his record even though the evidence gathered caused a judge to render a guilty verdict.

The thought process behind the criminal justice system is it would rather let 1000 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be convicted for a crime he didn't commit. Hence the guilty beyond a reasonable doubt (100% certainty). This should not be the same standard for the NFL or any corporate organization. I think clear and convincing evidence (75%) is a reasonable means of enforcing punishment. Also the NFL shouldn't have to wait for the courts to impose punishment, trials can last years or they can take months.

[Funkytown]

Citing six "high-level NFL sources," Yahoo's Charles Robinson reports the Cowboys and Cardinals are not willing to pay the price the Vikings have demanded to trade Adrian Peterson.

"Dallas has not even spoken to Minnesota regarding Peterson," Robinson writes, while Arizona is unwilling to surrender its first-round pick. Peterson-to-the-Cardinals reportedly could be a done deal were Vikings GM Rick Spielman willing to trade A.P. for a mid-to-late second-round pick, but that is currently not happening. Robinson speculates that the Buccaneers and Jaguars are sleepers to acquire Peterson, perhaps in exchange for a top-40 pick. According to Robinson, Spielman's "feet are in cement," he "wants Peterson in a Vikings uniform," and "it's going to take a sledgehammer to remove him from that spot."

Source: Yahoo Sports

According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Vikings have said "publicly and privately" that Adrian Peterson "plays for them or no one."

Short of being truly blown away by a trade offer, it appears GM Rick Spielman is all-in on waiting Peterson out, even if he doesn't report to anything Vikings related before the season. RapSheet did leave open the door for the Cardinals to acquire Peterson after the draft, but multiple reports elsewhere have stated the Vikings are unwilling to part with Peterson for future considerations. If Peterson isn't traded by next Saturday night -- and it currently appears he won't be -- he'll either be a 2015 Viking, or sitting at home.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

[Purple bruise]

This idiot Kluwe needs to keep his "pie hole" shut. Seems he is always sticking his fat nose into other's business

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... tion-well/

[Cliff]

This idiot Kluwe needs to keep his "pie hole" shut. Seems he is always sticking his fat nose into other's business

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... tion-well/

“[Peterson] also feels that he’s been treated kind of unfairly, which I can see from a player’s perspective,” Kluwe said. “You think that the organization has your back. You think that these people have your back and then you get hung out to dry. I think there’s blame to go around on both sides, but AP hasn’t handled it particularly well. He’s probably valid in thinking he didn’t get some of the support that he thought he was going to get, but he’s the one who made the mistakes and he’s the one who needs to own up to it.”

Seems like a pretty fair take to me.

[Purple bruise]

Seems like a pretty fair take to me.

Peterson said he was treated unfairly, where is that documented?? When did the Vikes not have his back? Oh yeah when they paid him his full salary How does Klue-less know that AD hasn't "owned up to his mistakes"? Maybe he has to his family and friends for all anyone knows. Who asked for his opinion anyway?
I have zero respect for him but some seem to love him and stand up for him and that's fine.

[Cliff]

Peterson said he was treated unfairly, where is that documented??

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... -1.2012780

When did the Vikes not have his back? Oh yeah when they paid him his full salary How does Klue-less know that AD hasn't "owned up to his mistakes"? Maybe he has to his family and friends for all anyone knows.

He has said repeatedly that he thinks the management worked against him with the NFL. I'm not sure what he means by owning up to his mistakes ... but I'd guess he means that Peterson shouldn't be asking for a trade or anything else because ultimately this whole situation is his fault.

Who asked for his opinion anyway?

The author of the article I guess.

I have zero respect for him but some seem to love him and stand up for him and that's fine.

I've agreed with him at times and disagreed with him other times. I don't love or hate him.

[Pondering Her Percy]

Citing six "high-level NFL sources," Yahoo's Charles Robinson reports the Cowboys and Cardinals are not willing to pay the price the Vikings have demanded to trade Adrian Peterson.
"Dallas has not even spoken to Minnesota regarding Peterson," Robinson writes, while Arizona is unwilling to surrender its first-round pick. Peterson-to-the-Cardinals reportedly could be a done deal were Vikings GM Rick Spielman willing to trade A.P. for a mid-to-late second-round pick, but that is currently not happening. Robinson speculates that the Buccaneers and Jaguars are sleepers to acquire Peterson, perhaps in exchange for a top-40 pick. According to Robinson, Spielman's "feet are in cement," he "wants Peterson in a Vikings uniform," and "it's going to take a sledgehammer to remove him from that spot."
Related: Cardinals, Cowboys, Jaguars, Buccaneers

According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Vikings have said "publicly and privately" that Adrian Peterson "plays for them or no one."
Short of being truly blown away by a trade offer, it appears GM Rick Spielman is all-in on waiting Peterson out, even if he doesn't report to anything Vikings related before the season. RapSheet did leave open the door for the Cardinals to acquire Peterson after the draft, but multiple reports elsewhere have stated the Vikings are unwilling to part with Peterson for future considerations. If Peterson isn't traded by next Saturday night -- and it currently appears he won't be -- he'll either be a 2015 Viking, or sitting at home.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

[Purple bruise]

I read your posted article Cliff and the organization that AD was referring to was not the Vikes but the NFL, at least that is how I understood it. So he has had qualms with the NFL but I do not see where that disdain was directed towards the Vikings. Did it say that the Vikings management was working with the NFL against him

[Cliff]

I read your posted article Cliff and the organization that AD was referring to was not the Vikes but the NFL, at least that is how I understood it. So he has had qualms with the NFL but I do not see where that disdain was directed towards the Vikings. Did it say that the Vikings management was working with the NFL against him

In the article you posted it said 'the organization' and didn't specifically name the Vikings so I just assumed he was referring to the NFL as a whole. However, if he thinks the Vikings were working with the NFL that would mean he was treated unfairly by both organizations in his mind, I would assume. Regardless, Peterson has made the comment about being treated unfairly so it's not as if Kluwe pulled it out of thin air.

And yes, though this article doesn't say so Peterson has commented that he felt the Vikings were working with the NFL to keep him off the field;

When Adrian Peterson told USA Today there were people in Vikings' organization who did want him back and people in the organization who didn't, the person he was referring to who wasn't in favor of his return was the team's general counsel, Kevin Warren, per league sources. Warren and the NFL have been working to make sure Peterson did not return this season, per sources familiar with the case. Now there are questions about whether Peterson will return to Minnesota at all next season. There were those in the Vikings organization who were, and still are, in favor of Peterson's return, including the coaches, front office and players. But per sources, Peterson believes at least one individual didn't want him back.

http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/11/24 ... -off-field