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Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:18 am
by PurpleMustReign
beerfan wrote:I think part of the problem is there is no better options at kicker. I know people will call for Gould but he's not as good as he once was, and we still need someone to handle kickoffs. At least Blair Walsh has a strong leg. I may be missing someone who's decent and available, but I didn't see any free agents who would actually be an upgrade.
Gould would still be good inside 50. Walsh can kickoff and the do the long FGs.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:22 am
by Mothman
PurpleMustReign wrote: Gould would still be good inside 50. Walsh can kickoff and the do the long FGs.

Just remember, Gould missed some key FGs last year. He's been a great kicker over the course of his career but at this stage, it's not entirely clear that he would be an upgrade.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:05 am
by autobon7
[quote="Mothman"


Just remember, Gould missed some key FGs last year. He's been a great kicker over the course of his career but at this stage, it's not entirely clear that he would be an upgrade.[/quote]

That's the issue.......do you trade (not actually trade) one inconsistent kicker for another? If there is not a clear upgrade available then we are forced to stick with Walsh.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:46 am
by PurpleMustReign
autobon7 wrote:[quote="Mothman"


Just remember, Gould missed some key FGs last year. He's been a great kicker over the course of his career but at this stage, it's not entirely clear that he would be an upgrade.
That's the issue.......do you trade (not actually trade) one inconsistent kicker for another? If there is not a clear upgrade available then we are forced to stick with Walsh.[/quote]
I can't believe that anyone is on worse shape than Walsh right now. There has to be someone who can make fgs more consistently.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:51 am
by IrishViking
Not to mention that we know that Walshs peak is literally perfection. I think as long as Preifer is here and Walsh doesn't lose us a game hell stay.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:30 am
by Cliff
They're stuck with Walsh for the season like it or not. There aren't better options currently.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:15 pm
by S197
Mothman wrote:
Just remember, Gould missed some key FGs last year. He's been a great kicker over the course of his career but at this stage, it's not entirely clear that he would be an upgrade.
Was that in Soldier Field? I can see missing a few out there with the winds. I was hopeful kicking indoors would help Walsh but it doesn't seem to be making much of a difference.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:15 pm
by Mothman
S197 wrote:Was that in Soldier Field? I can see missing a few out there with the winds. I was hopeful kicking indoors would help Walsh but it doesn't seem to be making much of a difference.
At least one of them was in Soldier Field.

Is Walsh's problem all in his head? Is there an issue with his mechanics or have yet to truly develop the necessary chemistry between snapper, holder and kicker to make most kicks automatic?

Kickers miss. They all miss so it's really a question of how many/what kind of misses are acceptable. Missing 2 extra points already is clearly unacceptable, even though they've been moved back. Missing from 56 yards against the wind in week 1? that's understandable.

His other 2 misses this season have been from 37 yards in week 1 and 46 last night. 37 yard FGs need to be close to automatic. A 46 yard miss shouldn't happen often but that's not really a "gimme". even a good kicker will miss from that distance once in a while.

He's clearly still struggling and after such a huge miss in the playoffs, it's hard not to be nervous about him but I'm not ready to replace him yet either. Hopefully, he'll get it together soon and go on a nice long streak of successful kicks.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:24 pm
by IrishViking
Mothman wrote: At least one of them was in Soldier Field.

Is Walsh's problem all in his head? Is there an issue with his mechanics or have yet to truly develop the necessary chemistry between snapper, holder and kicker to make most kicks automatic?

Kickers miss. They all miss so it's really a question of how many/what kind of misses are acceptable. Missing 2 extra points already is clearly unacceptable, even though they've been moved back. Missing from 56 yards against the wind in week 1? that's understandable.

His other 2 misses this season have been from 37 yards in week 1 and 46 last night. 37 yard FGs need to be close to automatic. A 46 yard miss shouldn't happen often but that's not really a "gimme". even a good kicker will miss from that distance once in a while.

He's clearly still struggling and after such a huge miss in the playoffs, it's hard not to be nervous about him but I'm not ready to replace him yet either. Hopefully, he'll get it together soon and go on a nice long streak of successful kicks.

Like I said above. he has been perfect before. Not saying that he has to be all the time but that, to me, proves this is in his head.

He always misses left. At this point he should just try to shank it right, he'll make it 19/20 times then

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:46 pm
by Mothman
IrishViking wrote:Like I said above. he has been perfect before. Not saying that he has to be all the time but that, to me, proves this is in his head.
I get what you're saying: he's set and achieved a higher standard in the past. However, he's never been perfect. Even in his best pro season, he missed 3 FGs.

Whatever the problem is, I hope they can correct it.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:56 pm
by IrishViking
Mothman wrote: I get what you're saying: he's set and achieved a higher standard in the past. However, he's never been perfect. Even in his best pro season, he missed 3 FGs.

Whatever the problem is, I hope they can correct it.

I thought he hit every FG his first year?

My bad.

Either way though, his bar is high, you don't bail on what you know works until its totally untenable. I don't think the Vikings are there and like you have all pointed out, no viable alt

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:00 pm
by Cliff
Walsh is 28th place in the league with 73% overall accuracy over the last 4 games.

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:08 pm
by IrishViking
Cliff wrote:Walsh is 28th place in the league with 73% overall accuracy over the last 4 games.

See it could be worse. :thumbsup:

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:16 pm
by akvikingsfan
IrishViking wrote:
See it could be worse. :thumbsup:
Wait... there's 4 kickers worse than Walsh?

Re: Thoughts on Disappointing Seasons & Blair Walsh

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:16 pm
by S197
Mothman wrote: At least one of them was in Soldier Field.

Is Walsh's problem all in his head? Is there an issue with his mechanics or have yet to truly develop the necessary chemistry between snapper, holder and kicker to make most kicks automatic?

Kickers miss. They all miss so it's really a question of how many/what kind of misses are acceptable. Missing 2 extra points already is clearly unacceptable, even though they've been moved back. Missing from 56 yards against the wind in week 1? that's understandable.

His other 2 misses this season have been from 37 yards in week 1 and 46 last night. 37 yard FGs need to be close to automatic. A 46 yard miss shouldn't happen often but that's not really a "gimme". even a good kicker will miss from that distance once in a while.

He's clearly still struggling and after such a huge miss in the playoffs, it's hard not to be nervous about him but I'm not ready to replace him yet either. Hopefully, he'll get it together soon and go on a nice long streak of successful kicks.
It's been a while but I feel like one of the scouting reports coming out of college was he had a great season followed up by a really poor one. Or vice versa. In any case, kicking slumps may not be something new for him.