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Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:05 pm
by Mothman
Another " source with knowledge of the situation"... man, that gets old.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:45 pm
by Vikings28
Is this Dogra just trolling now.......

https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/sta ... 5211737088

:lol:

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:22 pm
by 808vikingsfan
HardcoreVikesFan wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -an-offer/
So the CB and 1st round pick isn't enough - apparently.
Starting to sound like draft day = early Christmas.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:56 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Honestly, I hope it's true that we are saying we want a first round pick and starting CB. Because either way IMO, it's a win-win. Either we keep the best RB in the game or we possibly gain a first round pick and a good CB. I prefer the picks and player over AP but either way, you aren't really losing no matter what way you look at it. So all in all, I hope that rumor is true

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:02 pm
by Norv Zimmer
I bet it means the first pick in the second round. Because of the fingers. Probably a player or more picks too.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:37 pm
by GoldFusion
Hey guys, first post here!

I've got a crazy thought. Some people seem to think that the vikings might have a few deals in place with teams late in the first round depending on whether or not Gordon or Gurley is left on the board when those teams are picking. If this were the case, why not take a proactive approach by trading back a few spots to the 14-16 range, then drafting Gurley. Gordon then would probably come off the board soon as well, possibly as soon as the Chargers at 17.

Then with both Gurley and Gordon off the board, we capitalize on an agreement with the Cardinals or Cowboys were a deal to exist, getting their first and change. Then draft one of the top remaining CB prospects with that pick.

Probably not going to happen, but it's a fun scenario to toss around anyway :D

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:38 am
by IrishViking
GoldFusion wrote:Hey guys, first post here!

I've got a crazy thought. Some people seem to think that the vikings might have a few deals in place with teams late in the first round depending on whether or not Gordon or Gurley is left on the board when those teams are picking. If this were the case, why not take a proactive approach by trading back a few spots to the 14-16 range, then drafting Gurley. Gordon then would probably come off the board soon as well, possibly as soon as the Chargers at 17.

Then with both Gurley and Gordon off the board, we capitalize on an agreement with the Cardinals or Cowboys were a deal to exist, getting their first and change. Then draft one of the top remaining CB prospects with that pick.

Probably not going to happen, but it's a fun scenario to toss around anyway :D

The risk there is if the other team felt like they had been played by the vikings (as far as the vikings drafting the player that they coveted versus AP) they may back out on the trade leaving us with a wasted first pick and a hyper pissed off AP.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:16 am
by fiestavike
Vikings28 wrote:Is this Dogra just trolling now.......

https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/sta ... 5211737088

:lol:
Image

It has to mean something. I'd thought the Buccaneers were one of the best possible trade partners, but that was before they axed Michael Johnson. Still seems like player(s) would have to be involved.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:41 am
by Cliff
Mothman wrote: I imagine if he signed elsewhere, his deal would get renegotiated and a new deal would probably involve some guaranteed money. However, I feel compelled to point out that there is no request or, if there is, it remains between Peterson and the Vikings and completely unconfirmed. All Jason Cole said was that "just as likely" as a trade, "if the Vikings are willing to repair the situation and guarantee much of his contract" then "Peterson would be happy to play for the Vikings". He made no reference to any source for that information. It appeared to simply be his opinion. He provided no real basis for it.

We don't know that he's asking for any contract at all here. I'm sorry to keep being the guy who points this stuff out again and again but there's not a single report I'm aware of that refers to an actual financial request/demand from Peterson or his agent in regard to his current contract. Their official stance, based on Dogra's comments, seems to be that Peterson wants out of Minnesota. Maybe that's a negotiating tactic to get more guaranteed money or maybe he truly just wants to play somewhere else but until there's some kind of actual evidence of a demand regarding money, it seems unfair to continually attribute a desire for more guaranteed money to Peterson when he has expressed no such desire. I suspect the reason the subject keeps coming up is because the media know he's unhappy and the best solution they can come up with to placate him is to throw money at the problem. For all I know, that IS the best solution but it remains to be seen.
He very flatly states that Peterson will stay if the money is guaranteed. If it's an opinion he's not stating it as such in the video. He actually does make reference to sources, though he doesn't name them ... which I know we're all so fond of but isn't nothing. In the video I watched of him where those quotes are from he goes on to say "but the critical question to consider according to the sources I've talked to ... ". So it seems like he's talking to someone to get that information, but it'd be nice to know how reliable the source is.

Assuming his sources are at least real I think it makes for interesting conversation. Though obviously like you I'm not putting too much stock in an unnamed source.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:28 am
by dead_poet
Adrian Peterson - RB - Vikings

PFT expects the Vikings to keep Adrian Peterson barring a "modern-day Herschel Walker-type package."

The Vikings don't seem to care that Peterson no longer wants to play for them. They also won't be getting a huge return on a trade for a 30-year-old running back who is set to make more than $13 million in 2015. "The Vikings want Peterson, and they’re confident that the passage of time will smooth over any ruffled feathers," says PFT.
Source: ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -an-offer/

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:54 am
by Mothman
Cliff wrote:He very flatly states that Peterson will stay if the money is guaranteed. If it's an opinion he's not stating it as such in the video. He actually does make reference to sources, though he doesn't name them ... which I know we're all so fond of but isn't nothing. In the video I watched of him where those quotes are from he goes on to say "but the critical question to consider according to the sources I've talked to ... ". So it seems like he's talking to someone to get that information, but it'd be nice to know how reliable the source is.
You're right, he does mention sources in the video in relation to that "critical question" but he didn't mention any in relation to the comment that Peterson would be happy to play for the Vikings if they guaranteed much of his contract. That's why I referred to it as an opinion. I realize he stated it as if it were more than that but since he didn't back it up in any way, I just have a hard time seeing it as more than his viewpoint, especially since what he stated has been speculated for a long time now but we have yet to hear anything about it directly from the parties involved.
Assuming his sources are at least real I think it makes for interesting conversation. Though obviously like you I'm not putting too much stock in an unnamed source.
That's really the bottom line for me. He may be right but so much has been rumored and speculated about this that I'm just not willing to assume anything is coming directly from Peterson unless it comes from him or his agent.

I do agree that it makes for interesting conversation and honestly, unless this is an irreconcilable matter of principle and nothing will convince Peterson to play for the Vikings again, I imagine throwing a fair amount of guaranteed money at the problem would solve it. It would sure solve a lot of mine! :)

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:42 am
by 720pete
fiestavike wrote: It has to mean something. I'd thought the Buccaneers were one of the best possible trade partners, but that was before they axed Michael Johnson. Still seems like player(s) would have to be involved.
This guy is a total turd. A number of players have dismissed him in recent years. You don't get fired for being a good agent.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:42 am
by chicagopurple
what a childish tool! AP signed a contract. Time to man up and honor your word. It seems very likely that NO NFL team thinks you are worth what the Vikes are willing to pay you, so guess what, time to be grateful for what the Wilfs gave you (including a year of FREE Millions). Its all just a situation that AP made all for himself. He has no one to blame but himself.

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:33 am
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote: Image

It has to mean something. I'd thought the Buccaneers were one of the best possible trade partners, but that was before they axed Michael Johnson. Still seems like player(s) would have to be involved.
If this somehow means something.....please tell me its Lavonte David :banana: I would take David and Tampa's second in a heartbeat for AP

Re: Adrian Peterson Reinstated

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:20 am
by aplknight
Found this article. It more so states whether or not the Vikings are saying they will keep Peterson because nobody has given them a good enough offer yet. What do you guys think a good enough offer would be for him?

http://gamedaysportsblog.com/2015/04/20 ... -peterson/