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Jordysghost wrote:
I think it would be accurate to say that most Packers fans realize the Vikings have a young talented squad and when you consider that AP runs all over us on a consistent basis, id say yea, only a fool would write off a Bridgewater/AP spearheaded squad.

And yea, I think most Packers fans are really tired of AP, and would love for him to be dealt far from this division, far from Lambeau field, I know I do. Peterson is the best RB I've had the pleasure of watching but my lord am I sick of him.

haha, nice post, I've thought as much and figured our division rivals would be ecstatic should AP be moved, which is how you know anything other than a block buster trade is a bad deal for us. Bottom line, there aren't that many players that scare teams as much as AP that don't play QB. He's the type of player where if your team gets hot for the playoffs and he's still healthy he can take you to the superbowl.

I'm sure you remember a couple years ago jordy when we went 10-6 and made the playoffs with the clown show that was Ponder / Frazier / Musgrave and the 2 games against the pack AP ran for what like 410 yards or something? Now that our team can actually play defense and Bridgewater can fill that russel wilson role, if Peterson plays like that again I don't know how anyone could say "the vikings have no chance at a superbowl in the next 2 years".

Of course he may not play at that level again, but they said that after his ACL tear too so at this point I wouldn't bet against AP.

dead_poet wrote:Adrian Peterson - RB - Vikings

An NFL general manager told Bleacher Report's Mike Freeman that he believes the Raiders are "right there" in the mix to trade for Adrian Peterson.

ESPN Raiders reporter Bill Williamson adds that he "keeps hearing" Oakland connected to Peterson. GM Reggie McKenzie has been trying to add star power to his roster and Peterson would certainly fit the bill. And the Raiders are one team with the cap space to take on A.D.'s $12.75 million cap hit. It's definitely concerning for Latavius Murray owners that McKenzie has seemed hellbent on adding talent to his backfield, first flirting with DeMarco Murray and now Peterson.
Source: Bleacher Report
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2422 ... l-defenses

Interesting, yeah I could see teams like OAK / JAC being involved because let's face it, they're not the best run organizations and their owners could be in a different world, thinking more about putting butts in the seats for the next 2 years and between Ponder / Bortles they could use a beastly run game.

I wouldn't put money on it but I wouldn't be shocked either.

Jordysghost wrote: I've never understood this kind of thinking. Any team can win it, any given year, we have seen this time and time again. Noone thought the Giants and Ravens would do what they did, but it happened.

Just so you have a some outside perspective, if you guys keep Peterson, or draft Melvin Gordon, I think you guys definitely have the firepower to be a SB contender in the immediate future.

I'd understand what you are saying more if your team was in some type of cap hell, or had a rather untalented squad, but I don't find either to be the case in the situation. Idk, just my opinion.

Sure, we could win the Super Bowl this year. Vegas has us at 60/1, and since the odds they give are terrible for these type of prop bets, it probably means our true odds are 1%. Let's say with AP we're actually 3%, but without him, we're .5%. Now, let's say we trade him for a late first, or an early second and a late pick. That might boost our chances in, say, 2018 from 3% to 6%. I'd rather have 6% in 2018 than 3% this year.

kurtkeoki wrote: Sure, we could win the Super Bowl this year. Vegas has us at 60/1, and since the odds they give are terrible for these type of prop bets, it probably means our true odds are 1%. Let's say with AP we're actually 3%, but without him, we're .5%. Now, let's say we trade him for a late first, or an early second and a late pick. That might boost our chances in, say, 2018 from 3% to 6%. I'd rather have 6% in 2018 than 3% this year.

Maybe, but I doubt that to be the case.

I wonder what the odds were for the eventual Champions of 2005, 2010, 2011, 2012..

Just for the record, I would definitely trade AP if I could find the appropriate value, I just really doubt that the Vikings will find someone willing to pay what he is worth. They might have to, because I don't think dude really wants to play in Minny anymore.

Oakland sounds like an interesting landing spot. AP might be taking the Randy Moss Tour. Play for Oakland for a year or two, then get traded to the Patriots and break some more records.

Do you guys think Oakland would be willing to swap 1st round picks and add a 2nd/3rd for him?
If so, who would you take at #4?

cmoss84 wrote:Oakland sounds like an interesting landing spot. AP might be taking the Randy Moss Tour. Play for Oakland for a year or two, then get traded to the Patriots and break some more records.

Do you guys think Oakland would be willing to swap 1st round picks and add a 2nd/3rd for him?
If so, who would you take at #4?

Beasley would be fantastic to have. Amari Cooper and Scherf would be interesting options too. I might rather have their 2nd and 3rd though... tough call. Fun to think about, but probably won't happen.

Texas Vike wrote: Beasley would be fantastic to have. Amari Cooper and Scherf would be interesting options too. I might rather have their 2nd and 3rd though... tough call. Fun to think about, but probably won't happen.

If we do somehow acquire the #4 pick in a Peterson trade, our options should be Leonard Williams, Amari Cooper, or a trade. Cooper and Williams are elite players. We can get guys like Beasley or Sherff by trading down. That being said, I don't see why Oakland would trade for AP. Their window for winning a Super Bowl certainly won't coincide with what's left of Peterson's productive years.

Dallas and Arizona sound like the best bets for trade partners.

Please note: the title of the link/article below is a prediction, not an indication that anything has been settled. the article is by USAToday writer Jarrett Bell.

Adrian Peterson will return to the Vikings and make history

kurtkeoki wrote: If we do somehow acquire the #4 pick in a Peterson trade, our options should be Leonard Williams, Amari Cooper, or a trade. Cooper and Williams are elite players. We can get guys like Beasley or Sherff by trading down. That being said, I don't see why Oakland would trade for AP. Their window for winning a Super Bowl certainly won't coincide with what's left of Peterson's productive years.

Dallas and Arizona sound like the best bets for trade partners.

If all things/teams and trade values are close, you can bet two things, 1) Ricky will get the most out of which ever team makes the trade and 2) If it is even close, Ricky knows to trade him to an AFC team. OBTW the Jags would absolutely love to add a star player of AD's level to help fill their relatively empty stadium.

I also believe that the most likely scenario is that Peterson returns. We have no real reason to cut him, since we can handle his cap number. So that leaves a trade or keep him. I just don't see a team giving up what we're hoping to get for him, although I hope we do trade him.

Purple bruise wrote:
If all things/teams and trade values are close, you can bet two things, 1) Ricky will get the most out of which ever team makes the trade and 2) If it is even close, Ricky knows to trade him to an AFC team. OBTW the Jags would absolutely love to add a star player of AD's level to help fill their relatively empty stadium.

I agree on the Jags. It seems to be general perception that the Jags would never pursue AD since he's a 30 year old RB and the Jags aren't close to contending. I disagree for 2 reasons:

1. As you state, they need some star power to fill seats and sell jerseys
2. They have over $32 mil of cap space. Isn't there a cap minimum? They might have to blow some $$ just to meet the minimum

VikingPaul73 wrote: I agree on the Jags. It seems to be general perception that the Jags would never pursue AD since he's a 30 year old RB and the Jags aren't close to contending. I disagree for 2 reasons:

1. As you state, they need some star power to fill seats and sell jerseys
2. They have over $32 mil of cap space. Isn't there a cap minimum? They might have to blow some $$ just to meet the minimum

You said that you "DISAGREE FOR 2 REASONS" It does not sound like we disagree at all

Purple bruise wrote: You said that you "DISAGREE FOR 2 REASONS" It does not sound like we disagree at all

He agrees with you, disagrees with the general perception.

I am hoping we dump him, to the Raiders, They can afford him and have plenty of space...

They have high picks in the rounds, and need a name like Peterson, to sell seats...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... n-peterson


Starting my own psychic hotline, soon

Purple bruise wrote: You said that you "DISAGREE FOR 2 REASONS" It does not sound like we disagree at all

Correct, see S197's post below.....I agree with you; I disagree with popular opinion.
That said I am trying to find what the minimum cap is, and if the Jags and Raiders are still below the minimum