StumpHunter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:30 am
UKno1VIKING wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:43 am
It's an interesting take that the players would perform better for Teddy or Case. The rumblings coming out from the team, are that Cousins is very much respected already. Listening to Diggs spout off about him sounds genuine enough. I imagine that is why he was given the role of leading the pre-game huddle (and wow do i enjoy listening to him do that).
We can only assume about his popularity, one way or another. But there's no doubt, as far as talent is concerned, he is a big upgrade.
And for me, we wouldn't have 5 wins without him. Especially when the D wasn't firing. Watching him lead this offence, with the D seemingly sorting themselves out, is an exciting prospect to say the least.
Let's examine the wins so far, and you tell me where our 11-5 and 13-3 QBs wouldn't have won.
SF - defense held them to 16 and SF has one of the worst defenses in football. Tell me why Case or Teddy couldn't win that?
GB - 2015 Teddy and Case probably don't keep this game close. .5 games for Cousins.
Buf - The offense lost us this game. 10 Pts off of turnovers and no pts until garbage time for the Vikings. Mostly because the line was playing bad, but Cousins also struggled to avoid the rush and played poorly. -1 win for Cousins.
LA - Defense played bad, offense played great. Still a loss.
Eagles - Eagles only managed 14 pts until garbage time. Case or Teddy could have easily won that game.
AZ The worst team in football
Jets - The second worst team in football
Saints - Kirk didn't play well in that game and it was a loss. I won't claim Teddy or Case would have won it, though.
Detroit.- I could have QB'd the team to a win in that game.
Yea, Kirk is having a huge impact so far.
Again, you're basing your analysis off record. Which is also what you're so hung up on with everything else.
-SF has nowhere near the "worst defense in football". They are 10th in total defense.
-GB, yeah not even close with Teddy or Case
-Buffalo was getting to Cousins before he even hit the back of his drop. Yeah there were a couple plays he could've gotten rid of it but I say time and time again, Cousins isnt a stiff like Eli in the pocket. He can move. Not as well as Teddy or Case but the guy can run. This OL, especially that game, was considerably worse than last years. With how bad Reiff was playing and how bad Hill already is, Cousins was getting killed. Also, last I remember, Teddy was strip sacked on TWO potential game tying drives his last full season. Denver and Arizona. But he can "make plays"?
-LA, yeah maybe a loss, but we had a chance to win the game is the point. Teddy and Case wouldnt have been in that position.
-Phi, winnable for them I guess. Again, who know how they wouldve performed. Look at Case vs Philly last year. Threw a pick 6.
-Arz, weaker team with an excellent pass defense. Again, who knows. They just held KC to 26 points. Lowest on the year!
-NYJ, weak team all around
-Saints, a game that came down to a fumble inside the 10
-Lions, another team with a top 10 pass defense.
Point being, I explained before that we have played some good pass defensive teams. Teddy, the QB you keep raving about, was a below average passer. Has been his whole career. Keenum, a better passer but a turnover machine. Outside of his one year of 22:7, he was nearly 1:1 on his career when it came to TD/INT along with wildly inconsistent throws, which showed at times last season and is showing this year in Denver. So what makes you believe these guys would play well against better pass defenses? Nothing. That is why this argument is irrelevant and makes no sense. Cousins is a better pure passer than either of those two by quite a large margin. So there is nothing that tells me Teddy or Case would have beat or kept us in all of these games. Especially against better pass defenses.
Think about it, how many wins did Teddy carry us in because of his passing ability outside of Chicago in 2015? Go look at Teddy's stats and APs stats next to each other. Every game we lost that year, AP was under 80 yards rushing (3 of them under 45 yards). Every game we won, AP was over 98 outside of Chicago and GB at the end of the year (where Teddy threw for a putrid 99 yards that game). Teddy had 3 TDs and 2 INTs in our 5 losses. Point is, he couldnt carry the team when AP couldnt get going. It was obvious. So if he couldnt carry a team without a running game, how do you think he could possibly have us at 5-3-1 or better with how our running game and defense was playing early in the year? That's why your argument carries little weight
They are far from "great options". Giant question marks is what they are.