Peterson plea deal...

[The Breeze]

Hopefully a pathetic piece of juvenile drivel like this will cost Power's his job, and any credibility he might have remaining...but it will probably just sell more papers.

If I'm Zimmer or Turner I'm paying Wobby to leave a horsehead in this guys bed.

[720pete]

That piece will go a long ways in bringing things together.

Put Peterson's brain in Powers and you get this article.

He sounds irritated that Peterson is not rushing into the arms of the Vikings yet his column just works to further the discontent.

Talk about flying backwards...... into the mirror of your own heedlessness even.

While I don't disagree with the base points, that are obvious to anyone paying attention, his tone and sophomoric insults are more message board material than professional journalism, especially given the situation is still in flux. I can't imagine anyone hoping for a peaceful resolve being happy about that piece.

What an idiot as far as timing goes.

Don't worrry, I don't think Adrian has the mental capacity to read more than 160 characters in a single sitting, so this article won't even be on his radar.

[The Breeze]

Unless Powers is roundly and publicly rejected for this kind of rubbish, which is beneath message board and internet standards by a long shot, and should certainly be beneath the standards of any publication.

I'm glad it's not just me then. I'm kinda shocked by it. I guess it really speaks to some deep issues all this has brought up.
I can't recall having an opinion of Powers of any sort. I wonder what good he thinks injecting his opinion like this creates...?

[Purple bruise]

That piece will go a long ways in bringing things together.

Put Peterson's brain in Powers and you get this article.

He sounds irritated that Peterson is not rushing into the arms of the Vikings yet his column just works to further the discontent.

Talk about flying backwards...... into the mirror of your own heedlessness even.

While I don't disagree with the base points, that are obvious to anyone paying attention, his tone and sophomoric insults are more message board material than professional journalism, especially given the situation is still in flux. I can't imagine anyone hoping for a peaceful resolve being happy about that piece.

What an idiot as far as timing goes.[/quote]

Hopefully a pathetic piece of juvenile drivel like this will cost Power's his job, and any credibility he might have remaining...but it will probably just sell more papers.[/quote]
If I'm Zimmer or Turner I'm paying Wobby to leave a horsehead in this guys bed.[/quote]

Speaking of Wobby, does anyone besides me like him. He is kind of dorky but he seems to know his "stuff" and I enjoy his reports. He finally had some dental work which makes it easier to look at him during those reports and seems to be able to speak more clearly

[The Breeze]

I love Wobby....and he's the perfect person to leave a horse head in Powers' bed.

[fiestavike]

From my own perspective, the irony of all this is that I am a critic of Adrian Peterson. I think his sexual behavior and the creation of so many children out of wedlock is a subject worthy of severe criticism. A responsible and constructive piece could be written about this. I think his method of discipline for a young child was inappropriate. Again, a responsible and constructive piece could be written about this as well. I think his habit of reckless driving is a subject worthy of objection. These are all issues about which a good dialogue could be had. Unfortunately, this has all gone down a pathetic and miserable road which has robbed all of these situations of their potential to be turned to the good. None of us are perfect, myself included. I'm certain I have fed into the very things that I object to on many occasions. Adrian Peterson, in spite of his flaws, has probably also done a lot more good deeds than I have, and than most of his critics have. We are made up of all of these things, and we are all products of our own society.

The trajectory of this entire episode has been incredibly frustrating to me. Peterson indicated from the moments after he disciplined his son (via text message) that he felt bad about the damage to his son that had occurred and that it was unintended. That doesn't diminish all of his responsibility in what he did, but it clearly indicates that this was an accident. We have all made mistakes. We could have used this nationally to discuss a big issue about what constitutes appropriate child discipline...instead we use it to vilify a man to score easy points for what essentially amounts to political views on the issue of corporal punishment generally. There's no reason that couldn't have been a civil and fruitful discussion. Even on this board (from which I was quickly banned) not objecting vehemently enough was grounds for banishment. This is not how respectful people are supposed to communicate. This is not how a free society is supposed to work.

It just makes it very hard to be hopeful about the future of discourse or the future of a free society.

forgive the rant. I'm hanging out with my old friend Jameson this evening and feeling a bit less inhibited than usual. I will sign off before I say something I can't take back! I hope one day to share a drink with some of vikingsmessageboard crew.


:drinking:

[Mothman]

I'm glad it's not just me then. I'm kinda shocked by it. I guess it really speaks to some deep issues all this has brought up.
I can't recall having an opinion of Powers of any sort. I wonder what good he thinks injecting his opinion like this creates...?

He's echoing, and playing to, the feelings of anger and rejection that many Vikes fans have been expressing since Peterson said he was conflicted about returning to the Vikes a few days ago. As I said when I posted a link to the column last night, it's laughably provincial but from what I've seen, there are plenty of people eager to buy into his attitude.

[The Breeze]

@Fiesta

That was a great post...I was having all sorts of similar feelings regarding the societal implications and my own personal 'ugggh' of disdain for how many opportunities like this go down the proverbial toilet dut to our own blind self-righteousness.

I think this would be a great opportunity for Zygi to speak out and galvanize this team like a true leader by condeming the destructive discourse and calling out some of the BS. But I doubt his spine in the matter.....and I guess that makes me sympathetic to AD in some ways.
We'll see what happens.

Put me down for a shot of the Jameson~

[Mothman]

From my own perspective, the irony of all this is that I am a critic of Adrian Peterson. I think his sexual behavior and the creation of so many children out of wedlock is a subject worthy of severe criticism. A responsible and constructive piece could be written about this. I think his method of discipline for a young child was inappropriate. Again, a responsible and constructive piece could be written about this as well. I think his habit of reckless driving is a subject worthy of objection. These are all issues about which a good dialogue could be had. Unfortunately, this has all gone down a pathetic and miserable road which has robbed all of these situations of their potential to be turned to the good. None of us are perfect, myself included. I'm certain I have fed into the very things that I object to on many occasions. Adrian Peterson, in spite of his flaws, has probably also done a lot more good deeds than I have, and than most of his critics have. We are made up of all of these things, and we are all products of our own society.

The trajectory of this entire episode has been incredibly frustrating to me. Peterson indicated from the moments after he disciplined his son (via text message) that he felt bad about the damage to his son that had occurred and that it was unintended. That doesn't diminish all of his responsibility in what he did, but it clearly indicates that this was an accident. We have all made mistakes. We could have used this nationally to discuss a big issue about what constitutes appropriate child discipline...instead we use it to vilify a man to score easy points for what essentially amounts to political views on the issue of corporal punishment generally. There's no reason that couldn't have been a civil and fruitful discussion. Even on this board (from which I was quickly banned) not objecting vehemently enough was grounds for banishment. This is not how respectful people are supposed to communicate. This is not how a free society is supposed to work.

It just makes it very hard to be hopeful about the future of discourse or the future of a free society.

forgive the rant. I'm hanging out with my old friend Jameson this evening and feeling a bit less inhibited than usual. I will sign off before I say something I can't take back! I hope one day to share a drink with some of vikingsmessageboard crew.


:drinking:

I'd be happy to share a drink with you. Thank you for that post. I've been feeling the same way about this entire episode and I share your frustration, and your disappointment, that what could have been a productive discussion about some real issues degenerated into something else entirely.

[The Breeze]

He's echoing, and playing to, the feelings of anger and rejection that many Vikes fans have been expressing since Peterson said he was conflicted about returning to the Vikes a few days ago. As I said when I posted a link to the column last night, it's laughably provincial but from what I've seen, there are plenty of people eager to buy into his attitude.

Well, I certainly tilted when I read Adrian's comments and felt that sense of betrayal, and commented before giving any serious thought.....so, I understand the feels involved. I just find Powers' tone to be malicious....like he doesn't give a rip about Peterson versus what the guy brings to the playing field. Which is what it is a far as opinions go....just unfortunate that the guy has the pulpit he does considering his shotgun like aim.

What a freakng circus this whole thing has been.

[Boon]

"unnamed source" is the new troll of the sports world

[DK Sweets]

Don't worrry, I don't think Adrian has the mental capacity to read more than 160 characters in a single sitting, so this article won't even be on his radar.

Thanks for the insight, Tom.

[Raptorman]

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_27 ... -situation

Tom Powers just went off on Peterson in this article.

For someone being so critical of Peterson and knocking his IQ, I would think that Powers would be smart enough to actually know what Peterson was charged with. It was not, "Felony child abuse". Everything he said was BS at that point.

[IrishViking]

For someone being so critical of Peterson and knocking his IQ, I would think that Powers would be smart enough to actually know what Peterson was charged with. It was not, "Felony child abuse". Everything he said was BS at that point.

Which is why no one should care what he said. Not that it seems anyone here does. It's sad that this article was even published.

That said, I really feel at this point it doesn't matter what anyone says. Peterson has said that it goes beyond what people can say because people lie (I am paraphrasing but that's the gist).



In my personal opinion I feel he as no right to be upset. I can see the line of thinking that would take him there but I seriously disagree with it. I believe he has no right to feel betrayed or think that the Vikings are being two faced.

[Cliff]

It's sad that this article was even published.

One of the biggest draw backs of the internet, if you ask me, is the ease with which a 'news' story can be posted. When a news story had to fit within the confines of the news paper, or even be told in the allotted TV time, a lot of junk got filtered. Now that they have an (for all intents and purposes) unlimited amount of space and an audience 24-7 they put out all sorts of opinion pieces that have no business in an 'official' setting.

Although, one could argue that nothing in the NFL (an entertainment venue) is actually news anyway.