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Re: Why did Kyle Sloter NOT make the roster? Vikings will REGRET this!!!

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halfgiz wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:11 pm
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:03 pm So far, nobody's claimed Sloter.

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About six teams showed interest in signing quarterback Kyle Sloter, waived by the #Vikings, to the practice squad. He's going to Arizona. But I heard another that had lots of interest was Detroit.
I should have clarified. Nobody claimed him off waivers, which ended at noon Eastern time.

He's now free to sign sign with another team. But ... I'm not sure he's eligible for a practice squad. He's got two years of NFL experience with more than 6 games on an active 53-man roster, so I don't think he's eligible for a third PS season. I believe the Vikings made Sloter active last year beginning in mid-September, so I don't think he's eligible. I think a team would have to sign him to their 53-man. I could be wrong. Chris Tomasson is usually pretty accurate.
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J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:26 pm
YikesVikes wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:26 pm

In fairness, it's a holiday weekend. Teams usually take a bit of time to iron out their 53 after cut down day.
Actually that doesn't matter.

Sloter, by virtue of having less than 4 seasons in the NFL, is subject to the waiver process. The claiming period for players placed on waivers ended at noon today, Eastern time. The order of priority for waiver claims is the same as the first-round selection order for the 2019 NFL Draft (that is, based on records from last season). So if somebody really wanted Sloter, they would have claimed him already.

Once waivers are over, teams begin assembling their practice squads, and it's a scramble. There's no way a team sits out this process just because it's Labor Day.

Sloter could (and probably will) end up with a team. He's a viable third quarterback. But it doesn't appear he's thought of around the league as a #2.
He signed with Arizona. Interesting choice considering they have this years #1 draft pick at QB.
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VikingsVictorious wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:58 pm
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:26 pm
Actually that doesn't matter.

Sloter, by virtue of having less than 4 seasons in the NFL, is subject to the waiver process. The claiming period for players placed on waivers ended at noon today, Eastern time. The order of priority for waiver claims is the same as the first-round selection order for the 2019 NFL Draft (that is, based on records from last season). So if somebody really wanted Sloter, they would have claimed him already.

Once waivers are over, teams begin assembling their practice squads, and it's a scramble. There's no way a team sits out this process just because it's Labor Day.

Sloter could (and probably will) end up with a team. He's a viable third quarterback. But it doesn't appear he's thought of around the league as a #2.
He signed with Arizona. Interesting choice considering they have this years #1 draft pick at QB.
Maybe they liked what they saw when he played against them.
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J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:47 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:58 pm

He signed with Arizona. Interesting choice considering they have this years #1 draft pick at QB.
Maybe they liked what they saw when he played against them.
I'm sure they did like what they saw, but he had many options and chose them. They wanted him, but it wasn't them choosing him.
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VikingsVictorious wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:59 pm
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:47 pm
Maybe they liked what they saw when he played against them.
I'm sure they did like what they saw, but he had many options and chose them. They wanted him, but it wasn't them choosing him.
Probably the style of offense that fits him best.
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S197 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:52 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:59 pm

I'm sure they did like what they saw, but he had many options and chose them. They wanted him, but it wasn't them choosing him.
Probably the style of offense that fits him best.
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Purplepain2018 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:50 pm The cutting of QB Kyle Sloter off the Vikings 53 man roster today was not only STUPID, but it was also inept from a business standpoint as the Vikings received ZERO compensation for him. He just walked out the door. The QB position, as anyone who knows and watches sports, is THE MOST important position in professional sports. As the preseason progressed, an honest Vikings fan would tell you that Sloter was starting to dot the I's and cross the T's. Sloter has a strong arm, he can move around the pocket, he can run, and you could just see the energy that he brings to an offense and he was making some really good decisions. He seemed to be really understanding this new offense and was putting the pieces together. Sloter, still being young, could have been the face of the Vikings franchise in the future. Everyone knows that it is hard to find a quarterback who can put the whole package together and then to be able to stay with the same team.

SO WHY CUT SLOTER?

It has been rumored that Zimmer did not want a possible rising superstar behind Kirk Cousins in order to put unnecessary pressure or to push Cousins perhaps for the starting quarterback position. Zimmer has come out in recent days before the final cutdown day to say some negative things about Sloter so the jury is still out as far as to why Zimmer would cut a potential face of the franchise quarterback. Obviously, we are not there during Vikings practices and team meetings so we have no idea as to what goes on behind closed doors.

Prediction: Kyle Sloter will be signed by another team and the NFL World will find out who Sloter is. The Vikings organization may have just made one of the biggest mistakes in team history in the release of Kyle Sloter, only time will tell.
This literally made me laugh out loud! Your prediction couldn’t have been more off. Sloter signs with Arizona, sitting on the practice squad, behind Brett Hundley....what were the Vikings thinking?!!
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Cliff wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:21 am I do think Sloter looked like the better backup in the preseason. The better backup. Backup.
Have to trust the coaches on this one. First and foremost, they know they need the best talent at QB that they can get, and said coaches didn't choose Sloter over the alternatives available to them. Regardless of what we saw in preseason games, Mannion is the guy the coaches thought had more to offer as Cousins' backup this season.

Unless someone decides Zimmer and Stefanski/Kubiak would prefer a less talented backup QB for some non-football reason, which is a decision that directly goes against their own self interest of fielding the best team possible, its hard to get upset about the move.

And we have to remember, Zimmer knows better than anyone that QB depth can be tested after what happened in the 2017 season when the Vikings ended up with their 3rd string QB starting the majority of the games that season.

Suffice it to say, if Sloter was perceived as key to the season, even to be the 3rd string QB, Zimmer would have found a way to keep him on the roster. I am confident of that.

Of course, the OP on this thread could be turn out to be correct. Sloter could become a star QB in the NFL, and the Vikings could end up needing Mannion or someone else to start, costing them games and a playoff chance perhaps. But that doesn't make the move to cut Sloter wrong based on what is known right now.

I personally hope it doesn't come down to whoever is backing up Cousins this year. The Vikings invested a lot in Cousins, and I'd like to see what Cousins can do now that he's in the 2nd year with his skill position players, better blocking, and better playcalling.
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VikingsVictorious wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:21 pm
S197 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:52 pm

Probably the style of offense that fits him best.
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VikingLord wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:58 pm
Cliff wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:21 am I do think Sloter looked like the better backup in the preseason. The better backup. Backup.
Have to trust the coaches on this one. First and foremost, they know they need the best talent at QB that they can get, and said coaches didn't choose Sloter over the alternatives available to them. Regardless of what we saw in preseason games, Mannion is the guy the coaches thought had more to offer as Cousins' backup this season.

Unless someone decides Zimmer and Stefanski/Kubiak would prefer a less talented backup QB for some non-football reason, which is a decision that directly goes against their own self interest of fielding the best team possible, its hard to get upset about the move.

And we have to remember, Zimmer knows better than anyone that QB depth can be tested after what happened in the 2017 season when the Vikings ended up with their 3rd string QB starting the majority of the games that season.

Suffice it to say, if Sloter was perceived as key to the season, even to be the 3rd string QB, Zimmer would have found a way to keep him on the roster. I am confident of that.

Of course, the OP on this thread could be turn out to be correct. Sloter could become a star QB in the NFL, and the Vikings could end up needing Mannion or someone else to start, costing them games and a playoff chance perhaps. But that doesn't make the move to cut Sloter wrong based on what is known right now.

I personally hope it doesn't come down to whoever is backing up Cousins this year. The Vikings invested a lot in Cousins, and I'd like to see what Cousins can do now that he's in the 2nd year with his skill position players, better blocking, and better playcalling.
Solid post.

I'll add this. If you read about backup QBs in the NFL, you discover that one of the most important jobs for the backup is to be someone who works with the starter mentally in the film room and the QB room. NFL coaches always talk about how having a backup who has a good handle on the game mentally can really help and challenge a starter. Like a collaboration. The backup's job, in part, is to help make the starter better. So if you've got a guy in Sloter who is making mental mistakes all the time, he's not going to be very helpful in that role. Obviously you want a guy to be able to play if the starter goes down, but do we really want either Mannion or Sloter as our starting QB? Well, maybe the OP wants Sloter, so I should qualify that question. But VL's point is valid ... we signed Kirk Cousins to a big contract. I don't want a backup taking snaps unless it's because we've got a 30-point lead over Green Bay.
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J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:26 pm
YikesVikes wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:26 pm

In fairness, it's a holiday weekend. Teams usually take a bit of time to iron out their 53 after cut down day.
Actually that doesn't matter.

Sloter, by virtue of having less than 4 seasons in the NFL, is subject to the waiver process. The claiming period for players placed on waivers ended at noon today, Eastern time. The order of priority for waiver claims is the same as the first-round selection order for the 2019 NFL Draft (that is, based on records from last season). So if somebody really wanted Sloter, they would have claimed him already.

Once waivers are over, teams begin assembling their practice squads, and it's a scramble. There's no way a team sits out this process just because it's Labor Day.

Sloter could (and probably will) end up with a team. He's a viable third quarterback. But it doesn't appear he's thought of around the league as a #2.

Don't you think that's in large part because he has never played as a #2 or a #1? Even his staunchest supporters only thought he should get a shot at playing #2 in preseason, to see how he did with tougher competition and with better players around him. Give him a shot, that's all. Very few said "he should definitely be backup for the regular season". Its not surprising to me that nobody claimed him off waivers, given that he never had the opportunity to show he could be #2.
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Pondering Her Percy wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:52 pm
Purplepain2018 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:50 pm The cutting of QB Kyle Sloter off the Vikings 53 man roster today was not only STUPID, but it was also inept from a business standpoint as the Vikings received ZERO compensation for him. He just walked out the door. The QB position, as anyone who knows and watches sports, is THE MOST important position in professional sports. As the preseason progressed, an honest Vikings fan would tell you that Sloter was starting to dot the I's and cross the T's. Sloter has a strong arm, he can move around the pocket, he can run, and you could just see the energy that he brings to an offense and he was making some really good decisions. He seemed to be really understanding this new offense and was putting the pieces together. Sloter, still being young, could have been the face of the Vikings franchise in the future. Everyone knows that it is hard to find a quarterback who can put the whole package together and then to be able to stay with the same team.

SO WHY CUT SLOTER?

It has been rumored that Zimmer did not want a possible rising superstar behind Kirk Cousins in order to put unnecessary pressure or to push Cousins perhaps for the starting quarterback position. Zimmer has come out in recent days before the final cutdown day to say some negative things about Sloter so the jury is still out as far as to why Zimmer would cut a potential face of the franchise quarterback. Obviously, we are not there during Vikings practices and team meetings so we have no idea as to what goes on behind closed doors.

Prediction: Kyle Sloter will be signed by another team and the NFL World will find out who Sloter is. The Vikings organization may have just made one of the biggest mistakes in team history in the release of Kyle Sloter, only time will tell.
This literally made me laugh out loud! Your prediction couldn’t have been more off. Sloter signs with Arizona, sitting on the practice squad, behind Brett Hundley....what were the Vikings thinking?!!
Its a little early to say where Sloter will end up, don't you think? I don't think PP2018 was predicting we'd wake up this morning to read that Sloter actually won the SB last winter, or that NE was retiring Brady for him. He was picked up, and he may or may not progress from there. Again, Hundley is a proven crappy backup with NFL regular reason experience, Sloter has never had the opportunity to play #2 even in preseason (unless he played with/against 2's on Thursday; I didn't watch. But if he did it was the first timre). It would be idiotic for any team to put him at #2 without evaluating him first.
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Purple Martin wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:21 am
J. Kapp 11 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:26 pm
Actually that doesn't matter.

Sloter, by virtue of having less than 4 seasons in the NFL, is subject to the waiver process. The claiming period for players placed on waivers ended at noon today, Eastern time. The order of priority for waiver claims is the same as the first-round selection order for the 2019 NFL Draft (that is, based on records from last season). So if somebody really wanted Sloter, they would have claimed him already.

Once waivers are over, teams begin assembling their practice squads, and it's a scramble. There's no way a team sits out this process just because it's Labor Day.

Sloter could (and probably will) end up with a team. He's a viable third quarterback. But it doesn't appear he's thought of around the league as a #2.

Don't you think that's in large part because he has never played as a #2 or a #1? Even his staunchest supporters only thought he should get a shot at playing #2 in preseason, to see how he did with tougher competition and with better players around him. Give him a shot, that's all. Very few said "he should definitely be backup for the regular season". Its not surprising to me that nobody claimed him off waivers, given that he never had the opportunity to show he could be #2.
I have no idea why. What I do know is that he's going to his third team in three years. Denver had garbage at quarterback and didn't give him the opportunity. The Vikings didn't give him the opportunity. At some point, doesn't the needle have to point to the player? If he's not good mentally as a QB, he won't make it in the NFL. Talent isn't enough. Hasn't been for a long time now.

Again, I don't know why. I just know that two teams now have basically decided he's not good enough to be their #2. I'm not losing any sleep over this.
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S197 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:59 am
VikingsVictorious wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:21 pm

Great Point S197. By the way were you born in a lab and experimented on? Your screen name gives of that kind of vibe. :shock:
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You should have went with my theory. You could have been like Dark Angel or something. The truth is definitely not as good.
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